Accuphase E-800
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Gene
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If you buy "gray market" Accuphase do it at your own peril. You will lose all warranty coverage.
There is always a way to receive warranty service, no magic there. The real concern is spending real money on a product that is not built and designed to work in your region. Your risk of failure rises, and your resale value plummets. Not a great idea.
Billion$Baby
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Sorry but you don't know what your talking about in regards to Accuphase gear. It has UNIVERSAL Voltage inside of every one of their products. All that is required is moving a jumper cable from one place to another. I have the Diagram. I have a buddy in New Jersey that travels to Japan twice a year on business. He always bring back Accuphase gear...goes to a Pro Audio Shop in Brooklyn, NY and has them switch the jumper cable for peanuts. Its like a 15 minute job from start to finish. This is why AUDIO CUBES (in NEW YORK CITY) does so much business with 100V Accuphase gear and other brands where there is Universal Voltage transformers inside. Audio Cubes has a nice discount BUT if you can get it direct from Japan the price is DIRT CHEAP. A E650 you can get for less than $6000 USA Dollars and that's at a 20% Discount from AUDIO UNION in Japan. They have MANY Locations. Sure there is no warranty....how many people do you know that have had defective Accuphase gear. None of my buddies pieces have ever needed any service of any kind in all these years. I think its a good gamble.
Billion$Baby
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Here is an example. The E-800 when available here has a $21,000 MSRP. At AUDIO UNION in Japan the MSRP is just under 1.1 Million Yen. With a 20% Discount that brings the price to $7887 USA Dollars.
^ Listen, you can do whatever you want with your money. But if you think a mucked around and disassembled 100V unit has the same value as a factory unit built to 120V spec then you are sorely mistaken. In your scenario you will certainly not receive any sort of warranty work on our continent no matter how hard you try. Oddly enough I dont see you owning any Accuphase gear, interesting.
Paul
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Well. I do not think we can blame no one in this scenario, I am in the car business and you know how many Chinese people come and buy those hi-end cars due to price difference here vs their country? For example, as Camaro, it's more than double in China vs North America. So it is what it is
Billion$Baby
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Disassembled? The parts are already inside. Switching the cable from 1 location to another is hardly rocket science. Already fully aware there is no warranty here in the USA. As far as resale value....How much cheaper do you think an E-800 would go for than the $7900 you paid for it? You certainly wouldn't lose much if anything....maybe 1K at most. Id lose a lot more buying the same piece here in the USA at an insane price of 16K-17K and then having to dump it for 12K-13K.
I don't own any Accuphase gear because I don't listen to lightweight music which is what Accuphase excels at. Too polite for me and my taste.
I don't own any Accuphase gear because I don't listen to lightweight music which is what Accuphase excels at. Too polite for me and my taste.
jdandy
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A Buck/Boost single phase transformer can also be used to supply 100VAC components from a 120VAC outlet. Cost is less than $200.00.
The accuphase E-800 may end being a great integrated.
But the distributor mark up is insane. I would never buy product marked up that much, no matter how exclusive it is.
I wish that luxman, pass or gryphon will come up with class A reference integrated with at least 50w 8 ohm and double at 4 ohm
so it can drive wider range of speakers.
But the distributor mark up is insane. I would never buy product marked up that much, no matter how exclusive it is.
I wish that luxman, pass or gryphon will come up with class A reference integrated with at least 50w 8 ohm and double at 4 ohm
so it can drive wider range of speakers.
The Luxman 590 benches at 83 watts of class A. See the measurements in HiFi News. They said it was woefully under spec’d. Very conservative. I’ve had one and it drove the piss out of everything.
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Shadowfax
Well-known member
This does not look to be anything new. Look at this snippet from 2012
03-18-2012 5:41pm
Thank you everyone for your responses. I read some similar threads and Accuphase seems to be the most favored although Luxman should be shown no disrespect. I got a quote on a new Accuphase e-360 for 10 grand. Whew, I certainly can't afford a new one so I'll be searching for something used.
03-19-2012 3:44am
Wow, that's over double the price of a new E-360 in Japan. Thanks!
03-18-2012 5:41pm
Thank you everyone for your responses. I read some similar threads and Accuphase seems to be the most favored although Luxman should be shown no disrespect. I got a quote on a new Accuphase e-360 for 10 grand. Whew, I certainly can't afford a new one so I'll be searching for something used.
03-19-2012 3:44am
Wow, that's over double the price of a new E-360 in Japan. Thanks!
Gene
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You obviously don't know what the hell your talking about.
Gene
Member
Sure..you could do this but think about what you would lose...no warranty for any problem. Interesting that you don't suggest the same solutions on another forum where you moderate....A Buck/Boost single phase transformer can also be used to supply 100VAC components from a 120VAC outlet. Cost is less than $200.00.
hmm... maybe because the owner is an Accuphase dealer and your thick as thieves?
Billion$Baby
New member
Guess Im in good company then
Gene
Member
Sure ..the world is full of would be know it all's and experts who dont know jack!
Billion$Baby
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Out of respect for Mike and Joe I am going to keep this civil. I never claimed I was an expert, know it all etc. Far from it. I only know what my ears have heard and liked. I have heard 3 different Accuphase INT's in the past few years and its not the sound I prefer for my musical tastes. Feel the same way about Audio Note. They don't "Rock" to my liking. There is no right or wrong with anybody's opinion about what they prefer. If I had your Ears and musical taste Im sure I would LOVE Accuphase. I know at least half a dozen people who owned Accuphase gear and they ended up ditching it for Luxman, Simaudio, Shindo, Doshi and other brands I cant remember.
jdandy
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Gene.......My post was simply a suggestion for those interested in being able to control supply voltages, nothing more. I would have no issue posting the same information on any forum if the discussion turned to supply voltage issues. It is self evident there would be no warranty on 100VAC Accuphase components sold in the USA. Doh!
The remainder of your comments are uncalled for, but not surprising. The Internet is run amok with self appointed keyboard generals. We don't know each other, so I don't have a clue where your rancor is coming from. I do find it interesting that in your nearly four and a half years as an Audio Shark member with a grand total of 105 posts you decided I was important enough to spur you to increase your forum contributions. It's good to know I still have the ability to motivate people.