Wilson driver material not acceptable for high end speakers today

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skytop

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I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

Sasha DAW Drivers


  • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
  • Material: Paper Cone
  • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
  • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
  • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
  • Material: Paper Pulp
  • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
  • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
  • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
 
skytop said:
I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

Sasha DAW Drivers


  • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
  • Material: Paper Cone
  • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
  • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
  • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
  • Material: Paper Pulp
  • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
  • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
  • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
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Says who? You are sadly mistaken IMO. Newer doesn't always mean better. If that was true, we would all be listening to SS gear driven by digital source material.
 
Sasha DAW Technical Specs from https://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/sasha-daw

Drivers:
Woofers:Two – 8 inch (20.32 cm)
Midrange:One – 7 inch (17.78 cm)
Tweeter:One – 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
Measurements

Sensitivity:91 dB (one watt at one meter at 1kHz)
Nominal Impedance:4 ohms / minimum 2.48 ohms @ 85 Hz
Minimum Amplifier Power:25 watts per channel
Frequency Response:20 Hz –30 kHz +/- 3 dB
room average response [RAR]



 
skytop said:
I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

Sasha DAW Drivers


  • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
  • Material: Paper Cone
  • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
  • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
  • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
  • Material: Paper Pulp
  • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
  • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
  • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
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FYI there is more than just 'paper' going on there !

So what did you buy ?
 
One can say that using Paper cone drivers would be the equivalent putting economy tires on a formula 1 car?

Just saying but, as others have mentioned probably more to the sound than just the drivers but since you brought it up : -0
 
skytop said:
I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

Sasha DAW Drivers


  • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
  • Material: Paper Cone
  • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
  • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
  • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
  • Material: Paper Pulp
  • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
  • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
  • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
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Are you telling us that you loved the sound of the Wilson's, but passed due to the materials of the drivers?. ROFL

Or you are just a troll.
 
Oh boy, very little value add on this thread. The original poster just wanted to make some noise. Suggest this thread should be closed.
 
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skytop said:
I passed on the Wilson Sasha 2 and the new DAW because Wilson uses paper and doped silk for drivers and the tweeter.
Paper is not durable. Paper flexes and deforms.
Other high end speaker makers are using modern far superior cone materials. Wilson is building speakers like biplanes were built with paper, wood and dope in the 1915. At Wilson's price point, they are responsible to deliver far more appropriate technology.

Sasha DAW Drivers


  • Woofer:8 inches (20.32 cm)
  • Material: Paper Cone
  • Tweeter: 1 inch, Dome (2.54 cm)
  • Material: Doped Silk Fabric
  • Midrange: 5 3/4 inches (14.61 cm)
  • Material: Paper Pulp
  • Frequency Response: 31 Hz – 21 kHz: +/- 3 dB, RAR (Room Average Response)
  • Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms / 2.53 ohms minimum @ 139 Hz
  • Sensitivity: 87 dB @ 1W @ 1m @ 1 kHz
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Nothing wrong with paper or treated paper for midrange drivers , paper is actually very natural sounding ...


Regards
 
I’d like to hear from the OP.


I’m fine with Wilson, just not crazy about the inverted dome tweeters.
 
joeinid said:
I’d like to hear from the OP.


I’m fine with Wilson, just not crazy about the inverted dome tweeters.
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I think he's ranting and raving Mr. Joe. Hit and run posting is a good sign of trolling. He's making fun of a company that makes really good stuff. :( I don't like when this happens.
Ryan
 
I’m hoping the OP comes back with some clarification or other thoughts.
 
joeinid said:
I’m hoping the OP comes back with some clarification or other thoughts.
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+1

May be there is more to the story than just a rant?

In an age when Magico is employing graphene midrange and bass driver designs with Diamond coated Beryllium diaphragm tweeters and others like Raidho and Borresen are also using particle accelerators to bombard diamond / carbon onto speaker cones in an attempt to stiffen them without gaining weight and thus reduce break up resonances - Wilson's paper pulp does look dated from a modern technological perspective. Is that the point he is trying to make? Hopefully he comes back with clarification.
 
mep said:
Says who? You are sadly mistaken IMO. Newer doesn't always mean better. If that was true, we would all be listening to SS gear driven by digital source material.
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If you want great, clear, accurate, audible music then you are “listening to SS gear driven by digital source material”.

Welcome to the 21st Century. :)
 
kiwi_1282001 said:
+1

May be there is more to the story than just a rant?

In an age when Magico is employing graphene midrange and bass driver designs with Diamond coated Beryllium diaphragm tweeters and others like Raidho and Borresen are also using particle accelerators to bombard diamond / carbon onto speaker cones in an attempt to stiffen them without gaining weight and thus reduce break up resonances - Wilson's paper pulp does look dated from a modern technological perspective. Is that the point he is trying to make? Hopefully he comes back with clarification.
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tube amps and turntables are also dated from a technology perspective. As you well know, both technologies can sound up there with the best you can listen to.

Personally I think Wilson should ditch the soft dome tweeter and move onto a Beryllium, Diamond type tweeter as I find the dome tweeter so damn boring whenever I listen to the new Wilson's.

The guy is troll, plain and simple - he was online when people were asking for him to clarify. he may come back and say Magico is sterile and artificial sounding :D
 
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