Wilson Audio and Soulution amplification - a match in heaven or a pairing from hell?

you thinking of buying a set of Wilsons?

Why not? Just playing with ideas so far.

But to be honest, most ideas remain just such, as there is currently nothing I would like to change in the sound. Any mod is likely to result in different at most, rather than better.

Biggest change this year has been switching to Qobuz sublime [emoji3].


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There is a gentleman on WBF who runs this combo. I believe his (username) is Marty.

He has made several posts about this combination.

That being said, are you concerned bout the resolving power and neutrality of Soulution electronics being "lost" in Wilsons?

Example, I've always thought of Wilson as a more darker and less neutral speaker than a Magico as an example.

Miguel, that kind of summarizes my question.

My understanding of Wilsons is similar, definitely darker, more sonore than e.g. Magicos. Also, less resolving capability.

What you typically do, is bring in the different desired traits through a combination of components in the system. I’m wondering whether Wilson and Soulution add too much of similar characteristics.


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Miguel, that kind of summarizes my question.

My understanding of Wilsons is similar, definitely darker, more sonore than e.g. Magicos. Also, less resolving capability.

What you typically do, is bring in the different desired traits through a combination of components in the system. I’m wondering whether Wilson and Soulution add too much of similar characteristics.


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I agree.

That being said, are you looking for a different type of sound with Wilson?

Their design goals are clearly different than a Magico or YG. If we speak to the big 3 "High-End" American made loudspeakers.

However, the time distortion of Soultuion amps are so good low, maybe on a bigger Wilson DAW and above (to my understanding) where you can adjust the time-delay to your listening position.

It might be very special indeed.

Or, this could all be marketing? I'm curious to hear a modern Wilson myself.

My last experiences were the Sophia 3 (Metal tweeter) and Alexia 1.

I think there is member who runs Audionet Humboldt with Sabrina X.

If there was an amplifier that is similar to Soulution , I'd say it is that.

Perhaps they will chime in on this thread.

The entire topic of pairings creates a lot of confusion in the marketplace. Magico and Soulution is good, but I feel Magico and Boulder is better, much better. There are some pairings to stay away from.

B&W and Luxman and B&W and Sim are excellent. The new Classé gear looks nice. Can’t comment on the pairing with the newer Classe stuff - yet. [emoji6]

Not sure about Harbeth and Pass. Prefer Harbeth and Luxman. Pass and Magico is superb.

I also think the pairings are a bit a question of taste as well. And there might be a dealer perspective to it also [emoji3]. Magico develops with Soulution, Pass and Harbeth is a classic.

But for Wilson it appears to be difficult to get a lots of comments here, as this used to be such a strong Magico community.


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That being said, are you looking for a different type of sound with Wilson?

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That’s exactly the point: I’m not looking for a different sound. On the contrary, I’m very happy with my sound. Just experimenting with different ideas occasionally.

It was the same with Lansche and Magico. I was very happy with Magicos, but when I went to pick up my first pair of Magicos, I heard a very nice Lansche demo. From that point onwards it was clear to me, that I will at some point buy speakers with the Corona tweeter.

Then again Wilson is one of the very top speaker manufacturers. At some point I will probably have Wilsons. Just not sure whether it will be with Soulution electronics though.

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Is this thread going to be another Heisenberg mono blocks dealio or are you serious about buying a pair of Wilsons and a new amp? Which Wilson speakers are you looking at purchasing?

mep said:

Is this thread going to be another Heisenberg mono blocks dealio or are you serious about buying a pair of Wilsons and a new amp? Which Wilson speakers are you looking at purchasing?

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Should you not know how to read, I’m asking the question whether anyone has experiences with a Wilson/ Soulution pairing.

Please let me know in case you’d like me to clarify further.


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Kuoppis said:

I also think the pairings are a bit a question of taste as well. And there might be a dealer perspective to it as well [emoji3]. Magico develops with Soulution, Pass and Harbeth is a classic.

But for Wilson it appears to be difficult to get a lots of comments here, as this used to be such a strong Magico community.


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Yes, dealer opinion matters, but I try to be objective. As for Soulution, Magico actually has a room (think office size) full of electronics that they use to voice with. It’s quite the growing collection of goodies - including Soulution.

I’ve owned Wilson Alexia’s and my struggles over a 1+ year period were well documented. I encounter Wilson owners looking to switch to Magico regularly and I’m sure Wilson dealers encounter Magico owners looking to switch to Wilson too. It’s all good. There is plenty of room for everyone.

We have a lot of Wilson owners here and that’s great. The company is in good hands with Darryl and has a long history like so many in the industry. I think whether one likes Wilson or Magico or some other speaker comes down to obviously personal preference, but also room, music tastes, matching equipment, etc. There is no doubt that Wilson’s are voiced very differently from Magico’s. Setup for both is quite different. They show with completely different music styles. I have sat through dozens and dozens and dozens of Wilson demos. You will hear a lot of classical. The mid bass bump in voicing helps give those cellos and violins an added “richness”. But on a stand up bass in jazz, that can be troubling - in the wrong room. That has been my finding. Again, it all depends on the music you listen to and the friendliness of your room. We don’t have to get into the driver technology of the two, their respective positions on time alignment/misalignment or appearances - that’s been well documented. Some of that matters to a buyer, some of it doesn’t. I could happily make a M2 or Sasha DAW work in my room. For me, the Alexia was just the wrong speaker in the wrong room. Period.

Let’s also remember, there are lots of great speaker brands out there and lots of great ways to get great sound. So many always focus on Wilson or Magico. But there are lots of folks out there who love the sound of horns or dipoles or whatever.

But to answer your question, I think Soulution would be fine with Wilson and I definitely don’t think they are “too alike”.

Kuoppis said:

Should you not know how to read, I’m asking the question whether anyone has experiences with a Wilson/ Soulution pairing.

Please let me know in case you’d like me to clarify further.


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I did read what you said and when asked if you were thinking of buying a pair of Wilson speakers you replied "Why not?" So which Wilson speakers are you "thinking" about?

Thanks Mike. As always, your vast experience shines through in your responses [emoji3].

As an audiophile, I’m in a good bad spot right now. My sound is superb, so I don’t therefore need a change. But then again, I occasionally have an itch to experiment. But if I do it, I’d like to do it w/o losing what I do have today.

I would also think rather Sasha DAW for my relatively modest room, rather than Alexia. Also the backport remains a question mark. Lansches, like Magicos, do not have any. I’m therefore also intrigued about about the M2s, as there would definitely be a good synergy with my current system. Also MBL 101 mk2’s would be intriguing, but would require a complete system overhaul.

Regarding electronics, I always also liked the tank build quality of T+A HV components, and the AudioNET Humboldt might allow to tip a toe in the water, before making a complete shift. So many options, so little time [emoji3].


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mep said:

I did read what you said and when asked if you were thinking of buying a pair of Wilson speakers you replied "Why not?" So which Wilson speakers are you "thinking" about?

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Ok, sure. As just indicated to Mike, should I seriously consider Wilsons, I think the Sasha DAW’s would be the right size for my room.

And I have been reading/ hearing positive things about them. I think Darryl has done a good job with them.


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Mike said:

B&W and Luxman and B&W and Sim are excellent. The new Classé gear looks nice. Can’t comment on the pairing with the newer Classe stuff - yet. [emoji6]

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One pairing I also liked was B&W with Naim. The best I have heard the previous series B&Ws was with Naim.


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Kuoppis said:

One pairing I also liked was B&W with Naim. The best I have heard the previous series B&Ws was with Naim.


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Yes, we have the 300DR with PSU and the 252/SuperCap-DR and NDX2/XPS-DR in the store and love to pair it with lots of speakers.

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Yes, we have the 300DR with PSU and the 252/SuperCap-DR and NDX2/XPS-DR in the store and love to pair it with lots of speakers.

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If you have speakers which enjoy a bit of low-end support, also Naim can do that,


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Wilson/ARC is a pretty classic pairing. While Marty likes his Wilson/Soulution pairing, note his sources which are quite a bit different tonally. Atypical combo if you ask me.

Vandy with ARC/Ayre, B&W and SF (and JBL prob too) w/ McIntosh, Sim + Dynaudio, Focal + Naim, Avalon + Spectral are some others.

Having owned a pair of Wilson Alexias for about 5 years, I found the setup was critical to get them to sound at their best. The port in the rear of the speaker makes it a requirement for the speaker to be setup away from the front wall. The ability to setup the tweeter and the midrange individually made a significant difference and helped fine tune the speaker to the room and the listening position. And, these adjustments helped get the speaker to a pretty good level of coherency.

In terms of good to excellent Wilson-“Brand X” electronics: (based on listening sessions)
- ARC
- D’Agostino
- Constellation
- VTL (somewhat popular but not my cup of tea)

Not so good was a Wilson-Rogers combination I heard at a show a few years ago.

Lastly, haven’t heard Wilson with Soulution, Audionet, CH Precision or DartZeel.