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    VPI Prime

    Who is getting a first one ?
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    Re: VPI Prime

    My vote goes to you Paul.

    Seriously, it looks like a great table. Huge bang for the buck.
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    Paul, yours is better. Just get the 3D arm.

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    Paul, i too would keep the classic 3, its a great table

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    Paul, yours is better. Just get the 3D arm.
    I think the Prime comes standard with the 10.5-inch 3D arm.

    That said why not add the 3D to the Classic 3?
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    Re: VPI Prime

    Quote Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor View Post
    I think the Prime comes standard with the 10.5-inch 3D arm.

    That said why not add the 3D to the Classic 3?
    I agree !
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    My new Classic 3 arrives tomorrow. I got it with the 12" 3D arm. I asked my consultant, Stirling Trayle, about the Prime. He said it is an inexpensive way to get the 3D arm, since the price of the Prime is not much more that the arm alone. However, this is not a way to get a Classic 3 with 3D arm for a bargain price. The TT for the Prime also has to fit into that price point.

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    Re: VPI Prime

    Looks great! I think it would go right along with the rest of your gear Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotoy View Post
    My new Classic 3 arrives tomorrow. I got it with the 12" 3D arm. I asked my consultant, Stirling Trayle, about the Prime. He said it is an inexpensive way to get the 3D arm, since the price of the Prime is not much more that the arm alone. However, this is not a way to get a Classic 3 with 3D arm for a bargain price. The TT for the Prime also has to fit into that price point.

    Larry
    you're replacing an HRX for a classic 3??

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    Yes, so did Roy Gregory. I will first try them side by side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    you're replacing an HRX for a classic 3??
    Quick! Make Larry an offer for his HRX. Tell him you love his kids and you will help him convert some of his massive LP collection to digital.
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    Re: VPI Prime

    I will be very interested in your comparison of the two.
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    Re: VPI Prime

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Quick! Make Larry an offer for his HRX. Tell him you love his kids and you will help him convert some of his massive LP collection to digital.
    depending on which HR-X he has, imo the C3 may not be a step forward. theres lots of discontinuity of design with VPIs even within the same model range that clear cut sonic differences are not easy to quantify.

    i still have the TNT, i put an ET-2 on it. once its gone i'm taking a break from vpi for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    depending on which HR-X he has, imo the C3 may not be a step forward. theres lots of discontinuity of design with VPIs even within the same model range that clear cut sonic differences are not easy to quantify.

    i still have the TNT, i put an ET-2 on it. once its gone i'm taking a break from vpi for a while.
    If the ET-2 didn't have grounding/hum issues, I would still own it. It's a far better tonearm than many people ever realized. Like you, mine was last mounted to a TNT table. Now that I have an SP-10MKII and an SME-312s arm, I don't miss either of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    If the ET-2 didn't have grounding/hum issues, I would still own it. It's a far better tonearm than many people ever realized. Like you, mine was last mounted to a TNT table. Now that I have an SP-10MKII and an SME-312s arm, I don't miss either of them.
    no hum issues over here. my understanding was Harry had the ET-2 in mind when he designed the TNT, as you know it works very well on that 'table compared the SOTA Star I last used w/ the ET-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    no hum issues over here. my understanding was Harry had the ET-2 in mind when he designed the TNT, as you know it works very well on that 'table compared the SOTA Star I last used w/ the ET-2.
    You and I have traveled some of the same roads. I too had an ET-2 mounted to a SOTA Star Sapphire table many years ago. If you have no hum issues, you are a lucky man. I'm sure you know the VPI has nothing to do with ET-2 hum issues. The best I could ever do is to minimize the hum, but never truly eliminate it. The more you drive noise out of your system, the more the ET-2 will get on your nerves.
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    i dont think i could ever part with my HRX, in saying that i do love the look of the classic tables

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    The Prime looks like one of THE bargains in this hobby of ours, a stupid good deal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Jones View Post
    The Prime looks like one of THE bargains in this hobby of ours, a stupid good deal.

    I think it's "VPI's" dad, letting the young one wet his toes in the design waters to bag a big home run.

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