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    What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    I have the Vitus SIA-025 integrated amp and am having trouble finding a pair of good speakers to work with them. My room is around 16’ x 13’ with speakers firing across the room. The speakers have to be near the rear wall. Unfortunately I have a bass boom problem in the mid-bass frequencies and have found many ported speakers present a problem. The low 25W-100Woutput of the Vitus seems to prevent some speakers working to their potential too.

    I am interested to hear what others have found work well.

    Currently I have a pair of B&W 804D which are ok in the bass department, but I know I can get so much more out of the Vitus. Some of the speakers I have demoed at home are listed below and some sound so much better than the B&Ws - apart from the bass issues. So far I have demoed in my room:

    Wilson - Sabrina (certain bass frequencies presented a problem in my room on many recordings. Speaker sounded great in other respects)

    Sonar Faber - Guarneri (sounded a little thin and they also boomed despite being a small 2way speaker)

    Avalon Transcendent and Avalon Idea (both sounded wonderful but bass was a problem with both)

    Wilson Benesch Endeavour- no bass issues and sound great at volume. But the low power of the SIA does not seem to drive enough current to get them really working. At low volumes they sound dead.

    Proac K-6. These sounded so smooth and wonderful with their ribbon tweeter. But bass was a big problem.

    I am due to try a Magico S3 ii in April at home but I see they require 50W, so I’m not sure the Vitus will drive them sufficiently.

    And I am due to listen to a Tidal Piano at my dealers home soon too.


    Unfortunately room treatment is not possible as the room is also the family lounge.

    Any other SIA 025 owners out there with rooms on the small side who have found speakers which really gets the best out of the amp?


    My source is a Vitus SCD-025. I am in the UK.


    Thanks for reading.

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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Wilson Duette Series 2. They are designed to operate near walls. They are fairly sensitive: 91 dB 1w 1m. Check out their owners manual online. It is a wealth of info on room placement.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    I had an SIA-025. Using magico S-3's. I was pleased...
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Perhaps finding the speakers for the amp isn’t the best approach. Maybe find the speakers you love first and then an amp to match.


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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    " Perhaps finding the speakers for the amp isn’t the best approach. Maybe find the speakers you love first and then an amp to match. "

    Mike i was actually thinking the same.

    Flemming

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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    There is a member from Australia running SIA-025 with the Magico S5 mk 2. I had both the SIA-025 and the bigger SM-011 monos when I had my S5 mk2 and can confirm this is a superb combination.

    SIA-025 is much more powerful than the sheer number suggests - I see no reason why it should't work with the smaller S3 mk 2, unless you have an unusually large room or are a headbanger.

    BTW - I also had bass problems with the Sabrinas in my room - they were booming like crazy. I ended up closing bass-reflex ports. I had no such issues with the S5 mk 2.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    I've heard the 025 with Audiovectors and thought was fantastic combination.

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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    I can recomend the Gauder Akustik RC7 Mk2 Diamond Biwiring, especially when I consider your bass Problem. Thats what I am using with my SIA-025Mk2/SCD-025Mk2.

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    Zingali on the more efficient side.

    www.zingaliacoustics.com

    https://music-room.com/products/loud...?brand=zingali


    Others I'd look to try:

    Monitor Audio Platinum PL200 II
    Kef Reference 3
    PMC Twenty5 26
    Spendor D7
    DALI Epicon 6

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    Thanks for all your suggestions. After home demoing Magico, Wilson, Avalon, audio Physic, Wilson Benesch, Sonus Faber and ProAc, I ended up buying some fabulous Boenicke W13 speakers. They sound absolutely amazing on the end of the SIA-025.

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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Congratulations! That’s great.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Hi guys, i'll be demoing an SIA-025 Mk2 with my Thiel CS 3.7s very soon
    Hope this combo will sing
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    I am interested to read your comments on that pairing, I am happy with my Moon 700i v2 but would love to hear a Vitus SIA-025 (or 030) driving my YG Acoustics Hailey's
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thieliste View Post
    Hi guys, i'll be demoing an SIA-025 Mk2 with my Thiel CS 3.7s very soon
    Hope this combo will sing
    Not to be a negative nancy, but Thiels have tough impedance curves with drops into 2 ohm territory - not a great match here with a Class A amp. The SIA 25 will also run Class A/B but pretty much defeats the point.

    fwiw, on my 96db Fynes in a medium room, I feel 50 SS watts is really perfect. I've had 18 watt FirstWatts, etc run out of gas. I also had 20 watt LTA tube amp that monoblocked to 40 watts sounded more refined/at ease.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    " Perhaps finding the speakers for the amp isn’t the best approach. Maybe find the speakers you love first and then an amp to match. "

    Mike i was actually thinking the same.

    Flemming
    Me too. Choose speakers that suit the room - perhaps not B&Ws. First the TYPE of speaker, then go from there. Type being, conventional box (ported or not), electrostatic, horn, etc.

    Room treatment was stated as a no-go, but there must always be room treatment even though this may not be unsightly acoustic treatment. Carpets will treat your room, as will curtains and furniture. You need to look at these features as they will have a massive effect on the sound you hear. My particularly difficult room sounded dire when I first moved in, but carpeting 30% of the floor, hanging (always open) curtains and more soft furnishing has dramatically improved matters. Horns suit my room, electrostatics certainly don't. Box speakers not ideal either.

    So, as others have suggested, don't buy speakers to match an existing amp, choose speakers to suit your room and then if necessary change your amp to best suit the (doubtless much more costly and room critical) speakers. I bought or borrowed a dozen amps before deciding which best matched my particular speakers in my particular room.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Sorry, just seen dates of posting here and realise that I've totally missed the boat with my suggestions! Well done if you've found speakers that match your room and also your existing amp.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Don't be fooled by the modest 25w of the SIA-025, it has a lot of current exactly what Thiel speakers need.
    My room is medium size and i don't listen very loud.
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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Any updates on your audition?

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    Re: What speakers work well with an SIA-025?

    Quote Originally Posted by waltersalas View Post
    Any updates on your audition?
    025 is on it's way i don't know if i'll have it for this weekend but i should have the Audio Analogue Absolute in my system for demo this saturday.
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    That should be interesting as well. Thanks for keeping us informed on your experiments!

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