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    ZeroDust

    I discovered this years ago. It made my cart sound like mud. Now I only use the stylus brush, back to front.

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    Re: ZeroDust

    this was brought up last month over at Audio Circle ………

    Using a silicone stylus cleaner? Beware!

    seems there is mixed reviews, comments, etc. Like Mike, I'm a stylus brush guy. I admit to using LAST products with no negative issues.
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: ZeroDust

    I use Zero Dust, not having sight it seemed like a great method, I was always afraid of damaging my stylus using a brush. I messed up one of my RCA plugs moving my preamp out I thought I had mor room, anyway, when I had it fixed the guy cleaned my stylus and made sure the table was set properly, he mentioned the stylus was fairly dirty. I'm a bit shocked as I use the ZD every timeafter a listening session, maybe more but that's one of the last things I do. I really need to find a good brush and cleaner, I procrastinate, the table doesn't get much use any more, I just can't bring myself to sell my rig and LP's though.
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    Re: ZeroDust

    for the life of me I can't see how anyone would screw up their stylus / cantilever by using a brush. It is truly 'straight forward' ! (back-to-front)
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    for the life of me I can't see how anyone would screw up their stylus / cantilever by using a brush. It is truly 'straight forward' ! (back-to-front)
    You have never met people that were a danger to themselves and whatever they touched if they had tools in their hands?
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    Re: ZeroDust

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    You have never met people that were a danger to themselves and whatever they touched if they had tools in their hands?
    Oh for sure, but even geeky audiophiles that are into vinyl I would expect to be able to handle such a simple task ......
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: ZeroDust

    It really must be tough for people that are perfect like you to put up with some of us who fal short. Maybe next time you go back to front try it with your eyes closed and see how it works out for you. Then take a look at the construction of the maestro cart I use.

    I think you are so quick to show yoursuperiority it blurs your reading comprehension.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    for the life of me I can't see how anyone would screw up their stylus / cantilever by using a brush. It is truly 'straight forward' ! (back-to-front)
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    When it comes to brushing, I HATE the little circular pads. You have to get the hard plastic too close to the stylus, and I don't feel it's effective. I like a brush with longer, more rigid bristles. Soft supple carbon fiber bristles are useless. The white brushes included with Shelter cartridges are PERFECT. The KR Audio $3 brush is OK. If you are nervous with your hands, it helps a LOT to brace your brush hand with the other hand while your work. If the bristles are positioned up & down (relative to cart body) and you move from back to front, it will be hard to hurt anything - but this is mostly useful for cleaning dust from the cover and/or front yoke. It is good to brush with the bristles positioned left to right (great for cantilever cleaning too); just be sure you're only "hitting" the stylus & cantilever with a very small section of bristles from the brush on each stroke. Repeat while hitting the stylus from different angles. Then go up and down the cantilever too (carefully!). That way you don't get horrid crust cemented on cantilever top side, like in the pics that show the supposed Onzow "goo".

    I use Magic Eraser (rotationally scrubbing while dipped) and also brush regularly, with dips in DS Audio gel occasionally (when I'm too lazy to be careful with the M.E.). I also used Onzow in the past. I doubt there will be any chance for accumulation of goo with my cleaning regimen. This new "report" is interesting, and I'm sure there will be lots of "hearty" discussion to come, but it certainly doesn't concern me for my own usages.

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    Re: ZeroDust

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    It really must be tough for people that are perfect like you to put up with some of us who fal short. Maybe next time you go back to front try it with your eyes closed and see how it works out for you. Then take a look at the construction of the maestro cart I use.

    I think you are so quick to show yoursuperiority it blurs your reading comprehension.
    LOL, you are really quite funny, as for 'perfect' you said that, not me ! As for my post, it's your lack of comprehension that was not able to see the ounce or two of levity in it.

    So come on 'Professor' , lighten up a bit, you just might learn to smile at yourself !
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: ZeroDust

    I use my left hand as a place holder on the table and bring my right hand to it, like when playing an LP, I have my thumb on the outer edge of the LP bring my right hand over with the arm and gently lower the stylus down, over many years I've gottn good at this to where it's even more gentle than the lift. When I use to use a brush I'd hold my left hand on the headshell and brush with the right, the only issue I really can't tell much about how the brush strikes or goes over the stylus. A brush with longer bristles is a good suggestion. In hindsight I probably should have gone with a more traditional styled cart, not sure what Clear Audio was thinking with the Maestro.

    Quote Originally Posted by mulveling View Post
    When it comes to brushing, I HATE the little circular pads. You have to get the hard plastic too close to the stylus, and I don't feel it's effective. I like a brush with longer, more rigid bristles. Soft supple carbon fiber bristles are useless. The white brushes included with Shelter cartridges are PERFECT. The KR Audio $3 brush is OK. If you are nervous with your hands, it helps a LOT to brace your brush hand with the other hand while your work. If the bristles are positioned up & down (relative to cart body) and you move from back to front, it will be hard to hurt anything - but this is mostly useful for cleaning dust from the cover and/or front yoke. It is good to brush with the bristles positioned left to right (great for cantilever cleaning too); just be sure you're only "hitting" the stylus & cantilever with a very small section of bristles from the brush on each stroke. Repeat while hitting the stylus from different angles. Then go up and down the cantilever too (carefully!). That way you don't get horrid crust cemented on cantilever top side, like in the pics that show the supposed Onzow "goo".

    I use Magic Eraser (rotationally scrubbing while dipped) and also brush regularly, with dips in DS Audio gel occasionally (when I'm too lazy to be careful with the M.E.). I also used Onzow in the past. I doubt there will be any chance for accumulation of goo with my cleaning regimen. This new "report" is interesting, and I'm sure there will be lots of "hearty" discussion to come, but it certainly doesn't concern me for my own usages.
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    Re: ZeroDust

    I've used one for years, but don't just drop the stylus on it. i gently bring it forward with two hands on the little box. doubt much if any residue stays
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