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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    Thanks Joe

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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    That way I can get that warm fuzzy feeling on both sides
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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by Musicfirst View Post
    Thanks Joe
    Hi Kerry, welcome to Audioshark!

    Here are two Ansuz options for the Raidho D-3, Version 2:

    Adjustable Resonance Controlling Speaker Feet:
    http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Raidho...d_%20Cable.htm

    Darkz Decoupling:
    http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Ansuz%20Darkz.htm

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    SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    The topic of spikes vs. decoupling has been discussed before. I think the best is for everyone to try out for themselves what works in their individual setup/ chain/ acoustics/ floor type/ speaker type etc.

    I just remember someone pointing out that both Dave Wilson and Alon Wolf basically consider anything else than spikes a blasphemy, so I once caught a broad side when suggesting to put my S3 on Stillpoints (which I btw have and love it). Just had to laugh a couple months later, when Robert Harley from TAS told in a review that the same happened to him, but that his Wilsons also remain on Stillpoints, because he likes it.

    While I am not an expert, my 2 cents are that if you have a carpet, you basically need spikes in order for the speakers not to wobble around. Or put them on a 50 pound stone slab for that matter. If you then have either hard floors or in some other way created a solid ground for your speakers to stand on, then you can decide whether to spike or decouple, depending on what your system needs.


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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedtag View Post
    I never thought of using 2 sets of spikes...seems like overkill...but you must think it works.

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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by dfpeddle1966 View Post
    I never thought of using 2 sets of spikes...seems like overkill...but you must think it works.
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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
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    Hi,
    I don't have expensive stereo equipment, but I've been interested in getting the best sound quality that I could get from what I have. (I don't mind tweaking the equipment if it's not too difficult)

    I've come across one tweak that made a dramatic difference in audio performance from my system. I didn't have to buy anything or mod the system in any way.

    I simply plugged the power cord from my filtered power strip into the power outlet on my stove. I'm not sure why this works, but it must have to do with main voltage powering the stove.

    I get a much clearer sound and even an increase in power output (volume) just by powering it from that stove outlet...hard to believe.

    You can try it for yourself, see if you notice the same thing...that is, if your stove has an outlet, and it's not too far from your setup. (I guess you could use a good extension cord for that.)

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    Re: SPEAKERS ON CEMENT. SPIKES OR ISOLATION? Personal experiences wanted

    I have berber carpet over pad over concrete. Initially, my YG Acoustics Carmels were on their factory spikes. I changed to Stillpoints Ultra SS and saw good improvement. Then moved to Isoacoustics Gaia II footers with the carpet discs and saw the best improvement. The discs have spikes, and the footers fit on top of them.
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