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February 3, 2014, 01:47 PM #1
Buying tubes on eBay
Learning the hard way.
With two sets of tube amplifiers, a tube preamp and a passion to roll tubes, I decided to try a few different new tubes out - Psvane Mark II and Shuguang Treasures. It doesn't really matter what type of tubes, but if you're curious, KT88's, 6SN7's, 300b's, 845's and EL34's.
Looking to save a few bucks, I decided to TRY and buy a few tubes from a few different Chinese eBay resellers who all had 98% or higher ratings. All offered money back guarantees, fast shipping, yada, yada, yada.
Over the past few weeks, the tubes have been arriving from China. At this point, roughly 50% are either damaged or just flat out, don't work and some have become downright dangerous due to damaged filament causing blue streaking across the tube. On one 845 tube, the base just spun like a top and when I installed it in my amp, I didn't notice the damaged base and it blew a fuse in my amp. As a side story, I went to Radio Shack to buy a new fuse for the amp, and the girl working there was stunning - absolutely stunning - I walk up to the counter and say "I need a half amp, 250v fuse", she looks and me and smiles, "would you like a slow blow or a fast blow?" I'm not sure how I kept a straight face.
Yes, all this damage could be from shipping....but I have my doubts. But here is the rub. Yes, all these Chinese eBayers have offered me my money back ONCE I SHIP THE TUBE back! Well, guess what? It costs more to ship the tube back then the actual tube is worth! I even tried sending one by regular mail (read: no tracking once it leaves the U.S.) and guess what - they CLAIM they never received it. Such BS.
So, I've decided to give the folks at Grant Fidelity a shot. Stay tuned.
So goes the old expression....penny wise and pound foolish. I'm always game for trying something - I did and I got burned. Lesson learned. Never again.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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February 3, 2014, 01:55 PM #2
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Same thing happen to me .
Those bastards claim they didn't received
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February 3, 2014, 01:58 PM #3
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I've used Grant Fidelity before (twice) and always got the tubes in good working order.
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February 3, 2014, 01:59 PM #4
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Sorry to hear about your issues with the tubes. Just chalk that one up to experience. So I'm wondering there, Tiger, what kind of "fuse" did you get for your "amp"?
Doug
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February 3, 2014, 02:28 PM #5
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Thanks very much for this info Mike. I've been tempted to do the same, but thus far have not.. thanks for saving me the time and $$ in this!!
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February 3, 2014, 02:33 PM #6
Re: Buying tubes on eBay
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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February 3, 2014, 02:38 PM #7
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Mike, I understand your pain...I NEVER buy tubes from China/Honk Kong, etc.
I do buy parts sometimes, but why not tubes ? Because they are very good at turning cheap tubes into premium tubes with silk screened lettering. You can tell many times by the picture..tube looks like a match but of you check the plates and getters, they don't match the real deal...
I have some VERY reputable tube sellers from ebay (one actually works with me at Microsoft).
Here is his store
12AU7 ECC82, 12AX7 ECC83 items in Tube Maze store on eBay!
also check his supertubes section
items in Tube Maze store on eBay!MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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February 3, 2014, 02:43 PM #8
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TOO FUNNY....I work with Nikolay...funny thing is we are meeting (for the first time) for lunch this week. Last week I ordered tubes, he shipped and then I find out he works about 200ft from me...LOL
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February 3, 2014, 02:45 PM #9
Re: Buying tubes on eBay
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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February 3, 2014, 03:06 PM #10
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thanks for the warning, i been shopping for a cheap alternative to put nos el34's in my amps and i keep coming up with those chinese ebay guys. thanks for taking one for the team mike!!!
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February 3, 2014, 04:27 PM #11
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Stever...if your amp can take EL34's, chances are next to 100% it can handle 6L6GC's...which to me are more musical ..you should try them
RCA released the first 6L6 vacuum tube in 1936. Nearly 80 years later it remains the most used power output tube. It dominates the electric guitar tube amp world. Fender has been using them since the 1940s and since then there have been many others who have designed hugely popular tube amplifiers that rely on the 6L6 tube types for their tone. Unlike the EL34 power tube, 6L6 tubes generally sound a little cleaner and tend to have a bit more beef in the low end as well as more bite on the top. Some players prefer the extra clarity and punch of the 6L6 tube types.
4 Matched General Electric GE 6L6GC 6L6 Tubes | eBay
These are like mine
GE 6L6GC Tubes 1961 DD Getter Copper Rods 3 Matched Pairs Available NOS NIB Mint | eBay
Or better yet...get set from Brent Jesse and be sure of the best stuff
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February 3, 2014, 05:33 PM #12
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bnb_tubes on ebay is a good seller, purchased gold lions from him no issues
Kevin
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February 4, 2014, 05:53 PM #13
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I bought direct from China for some Shuguang Treasures the KT88Z and got the real thing 255.00 plus shipping and super well packed. It is the only thing I will buy and yes much better than the GL KT88.
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