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January 1, 2014, 10:26 PM #1
A preview of a turntable restore project
I bought a clunker. On purpose. Actually its not a clunker but a very fine table in its day and it operates. But it is dirty dirty dirty. It was used in a garage and it looks it. But don't let that fool you. In a few weeks, she is going to be a looker and operate perfectly.
Its a Pioneer PL-600 which is a sweet table - full auto, quartz speed lock and its actually suspended (platter and arm are on a suspended platform working in tandem).
So just wanted you to see how ugly something can start....
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 1, 2014, 10:48 PM #2
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Nice Rob!! I think I had one of those in the 80's. Can't imagine how many led zeppelin,
Lynyrd skynyrd and Rolling Stones albums I played on it. Lol. Have fun fixing and cleaning!!Steve
TUBES & VINYL
Is there anything else?
Rega/Ortofon/Viva 300b/KR
Music Reference 2A3
Altec/JBL
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January 1, 2014, 10:55 PM #3
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Yeah..something to keep me busy...like building a ship in a bottle...which might be easier...LOL
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 1, 2014, 10:57 PM #4
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
I see no belt Rob!
~ Bob ~
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January 2, 2014, 12:22 AM #5
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Its on my pants !!! Its a direct drive !
Want to hear something funny ? The original owner never removed the transport screws...so he never had the benefit of the suspension..LOLMAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 2, 2014, 12:42 AM #6
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
Which day is the garbage truck coming up your street Rob?
~ Bob ~
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January 2, 2014, 11:12 AM #7
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MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 2, 2014, 01:20 PM #8
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
Wow that one is sweet Rob!!! Nice!!
Steve
TUBES & VINYL
Is there anything else?
Rega/Ortofon/Viva 300b/KR
Music Reference 2A3
Altec/JBL
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January 2, 2014, 02:10 PM #9
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
Nice table Rob. When you fix up that dog that you just got in be sure to give Steve first dibs on it. That's gonna' be his new mono table.
Doug
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January 2, 2014, 02:37 PM #10
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Yo Yo Rob: Can't wait to see.
Vintage Bedroom Gear: Dual CS 5000, McIntosh C29, McIntosh MC300, MR78 Sonus Faber Concertino
Listening Room Gear McIntosh MT10, McIntosh c2300, McIntosh MC275MKVI Mono'd, Sonus Faber Elipsa SE
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January 2, 2014, 03:51 PM #11
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
Very sweet looking Rob; excellent work.
* Serious question : Under the plinth of that model you got the motor mechanism (without a belt);
1. Can you hear any noise from it?
And 2. Do you prefer belt-drive turntables (manual or semi-auto)? ...Like some classic Pioneer TT models for example (I got one of those; I forgot the model # though - PL-sometin').
Last (3.); What do you think Rob about Linear Drive TTs?
P.S. I'm glad you can read my sometimes sense of humor. Tres important for advancement in smart and friendly discussions, anywhere and everywhere in life. ...Excellent for the heart.~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
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January 2, 2014, 04:15 PM #12
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
First, yes..I can always "get" your humor and never take anything personal...not even critical feedback...that is what the forum is for !!!
No noise from the motor (I have never had an issue with direct drive and usually prefer)
For these, I like AUTO or SEMI auto. Now my Concept is the complete opposite. Belt drive, full manual. That's okay. In a higher end table that is what I want. Why ?
Higher end, I trust belt drive speed more. I also do not want extra "parts" in my better table that support the auto lift functions..make sense ?
As to linears...never used em and they don't interest me. Don't know why..maybe its the traditionalist in me...LOL
When I take this one apart, I will show you pictures. The motor is a sealed motor by the way. Quartz Phase Locked Loop Brushless Hall Motor...
Brushless DC electric motor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 2, 2014, 04:25 PM #13
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Very interesting answers because you separate the cheaper from the better TTs. I like it; you are not generalizing but specifying.
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- I prefer belts myself - cheap or expensive TTs.
- Linear TTs also have belts, and I like them too - even more so sometimes.
- Fully manual, semi-manual; I'm all good - even semi-auto and full auto.
* Cool that you'll share some internal pictures, I luv it!
<<>> "Never take anything personal...not even critical feedback..."; well said.~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
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Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
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January 2, 2014, 05:08 PM #14
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Yup..the only reason I have a second table that is auto is so that I can play vinyl and not be there to shut it down.
My serious IN THE ROOM listening is exclusively the Concept. When I lift the dustcover its like taking the cover off my Ferrari (lol..I wish)...that feeling...
Though I have to tell you, since I bought my DAC, I am loving my digital too for background !!!MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 2, 2014, 05:15 PM #15
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Now it's becoming dangerous; you are introducing a DAX (DAC) into the analog equation!
No sweat Rob; nowadays people use DACs to transfer their analog LP collections into their PC's (Mac's) hard drives.~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
Click ♪ Audiophile Audition
Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
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January 2, 2014, 05:44 PM #16
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MAC Donalds has Hard drives ? Wow...So does my vinyl collection go above or below the two all-beef patties ?
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 4, 2014, 04:57 PM #17
Re: A preview of a turntable restore project
More pictures guys !!! The teardown and beginning to clean and rebuild...Pay attention from the first pics of how bad the platter and buttons WERE.
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 4, 2014, 07:39 PM #18
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That's a great hobby Rob; you truly put all yourself into it.
~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
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Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
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January 4, 2014, 08:55 PM #19
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Now...the plinth goes in my arcorob bidy shop..lol..BTW..ITS RED not PINK...lighting with the camera phone sucks...LOL
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 4, 2014, 08:58 PM #20
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Rob....the Pink....I mean the Red looks so good.
Make sure you got enough Dr.pepper with you tonight .Paul
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January 4, 2014, 10:19 PM #21
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Its Dr. Pepper Red...LOL
Serious...when it is done, I'll make sure its in proper lighting ...
Paul, I notice you don't list a turntable...maybe we can get you set up...lol
This is what Jeff got me into...LOVE IT
He has been trying to talk me into this one...But I would have to sell the house...LOL
VPI CLASSIC DIRECT DRIVE TURNTABLE at Music DirectMAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 4, 2014, 10:23 PM #22
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$30,000 for a rotating wheel, are you nuts!
~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
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Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
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January 4, 2014, 10:24 PM #23
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MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
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January 4, 2014, 10:27 PM #24
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I modified my above post, to not spin any perturbation among spinners. ...An analogy?
~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
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Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
Avatar = The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky (1982 - orbiting)
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January 4, 2014, 10:35 PM #25
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Rob...I've been thinking about it for a while and still I am.
I really like your turntable at the audio show especially with new wood finish. ( here is the shot I took )
I'm still looking...too many choices out there. But Hell Nope I won't spend $30 K for sure lolPaul
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January 4, 2014, 10:38 PM #26
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I really like the very simple and attractive design. ...And that wood too.
~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
Click ♪ Audiophile Audition
Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
Avatar = The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky (1982 - orbiting)
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January 4, 2014, 10:40 PM #27
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I really liked the turntable in my Avatar.
Paul
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January 4, 2014, 10:41 PM #28
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I prefer the one in your above post.
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Do you like that TT from my own avatar?~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
Click ♪ Audiophile Audition
Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
Avatar = The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky (1982 - orbiting)
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January 4, 2014, 10:48 PM #29
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January 4, 2014, 10:51 PM #30
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Paul..that one is TOO cool...but my wife would never believe me if I said I traded some tubes for it...LOL
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
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January 4, 2014, 10:57 PM #31
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MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
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January 4, 2014, 10:58 PM #32
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January 4, 2014, 11:19 PM #33
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MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
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January 4, 2014, 11:21 PM #34
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~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
Click ♪ Audiophile Audition
Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
Avatar = The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky (1982 - orbiting)
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January 5, 2014, 01:54 PM #35
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I can't wait to see the results. It's going to look great!
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January 5, 2014, 02:25 PM #36
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Its getting there...closer than I thought actually. A new tonearm belt is on its way (its a small rubber belt - almost a rubber band that works the auto function), the Plinth is done, the electronics are done...Today I mask and paint the tonearm base section...then reassembly, cart mount and viola...a custom PL600..LOL
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
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January 5, 2014, 04:29 PM #37
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It reminds me some of the tape decks I fixed in the past; with some rubber bands the size of the original belts. ...And they worked perfectly too.
{I don't know if some of you here ever replaced the belts in your tape decks but it ain't for the impatient type.}
It's fun to follow your progress through each step Rob. ...And with those small details explained, like the tonearm's belt.~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
Click ♪ Audiophile Audition
Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
Avatar = The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky (1982 - orbiting)
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January 5, 2014, 07:24 PM #38
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Thanks Bob..it is fun...she'll be a pretty and fine working backup table when done..!
MAIN RIG: Equipment: Marantz SR4023 as Pre / Velleman K4040 Tube Power Amp / Yamaha M65 Power Amp / Polk Monitor 70's with Polk Sub / ClearAudio Concept table with Musical Surroundings Phonomena II Phono Stage and ClearAudio Concept MC cart /Pioneer PL500 TT with AT440MLa
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
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January 5, 2014, 07:27 PM #39
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Yeah, she wasn't so pretty right after you bought her.
~ Bob ~
"And it Stoned me to my Soul" • Van Morrison
Click ♪ Audiophile Audition
Snoopy as the Red Baron attack
Avatar = The Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky (1982 - orbiting)
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