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August 18, 2016, 06:55 PM #1Senior Member
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Döhmann helix 1 turntable
Local distributor is going to bring in this turntable in a few weeks time.
Cant wait to see/hear what's the "commotion" about. When I go to their website, nothing much except a long, long write up on the who's who involved in the creation? of this turntable. Certainly not cheap (what is these days when talking about hi-end stuff?) running into US$40k (don't know the discount factor).
I've heard the Muse 3C (lower price point) and am impressed by the looks and the "twin" (or rather 2 way/type driving the turntable).
Will share more when had the chance to audition this new player
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August 18, 2016, 06:58 PM #2Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
Jerry...Any pics you can post of the TT?
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August 18, 2016, 08:16 PM #3Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
Looks like some details and nice pics here for your reference.
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August 18, 2016, 08:28 PM #4Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
It looks pretty impressive in the flesh
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August 18, 2016, 10:15 PM #5Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
Nice
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August 19, 2016, 12:06 AM #6Audioshark
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
Nice!
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
It is pretty cool looking ... I have seen it at the various stages of build at the Thrax factory. It has the integrated Minus-K platform built it.
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
It the development continues like this, people will need two audio rooms on the future - one just to house their massive record players...
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August 19, 2016, 06:58 AM #9Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
The Döhmann Helix 1 is actually pretty compact. Especially if you factor in the inbuilt minus-k platform.
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August 19, 2016, 07:22 AM #10Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
Agree. Its about the size of a VPI HRX. not too large at all.
Originally Posted by Elberoth
I should have taken a picture of it next to the Giant Acoustical Systems table - damn tiny compared to that
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
At least it is compact in the vertical position - imagine how big the HRX would get on the Minus-K paltform.
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August 19, 2016, 02:48 PM #12Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
It's a question of perspective and personal preference.
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
I was told about this a few years ago & have been eagerly awaitng....
So what is so special about this new arm design:
Magnetically centered and pre-loaded ceramic hybrid bearings: no bearing chatter, lateral movement damped by eddy currents, extremely low bearing stiction/friction
Symmetrical mass distribution: external exitation does not cause any cantilever deflection ; no change in VTF when altering VTA
Bearing for vertical movement on or near the same plane as record: no warp wow
Wiring harness with super low capacitance(30pf without, 50pf with shield), symmetrical layout(shield is kept separate from the conductors
Multi-layer armwand (CF, Phenolic, PTFE), combining extreme torsional and bending stiffness with very high internal damping: No discernible sonic fingerprint, maximum resolution of detail and dynamic shading
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October 11, 2016, 06:56 AM #14Senior Member
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
I had a listen to this turntable and liked the Minus-K platform idea so much
I have ordered a Minus-K platform.This will be ideal turntable for the Japanese market given there seismic activity..
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
With most TT center of gravity off centre , would leveling it on a spring based platform like Minus K be problematic ? I have seen Helix v springy suspension making catridge set up not as easy as u would like it to be .
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Re: Döhmann helix 1 turntable
I have a Clearaudio Master Solution sitting on a Minus K and haven't had major issues balancing it. In audio applications they usually set the rubber dampers under the top plate further apart so it's easier to balance.
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