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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

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    That's a great analogy, Darrin! It really helps me understand the difference in the sound between your two setups.
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    I just placed my order for the HRS matching platform (M3X-1921-AMG V12). Any observations from current owners on type of improvement?

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    Bumpety bump

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    Darrin,
    I spoke with Mike Latvis to find out what footer weight /colour range was used for the 19x21 hrs m3 platform when used with the v12 as i had one red m3 and one green m3. I swapped out two feet on each m3 to create the v12 m3 shelf.
    Previously, i had the v12 on a project ground-it deluxe and it was not very well isolated. I use the v12 leveling spikes out about 1/4" When i would knock the stand/shelf you could hear a thump. With the m3 in, i hear nothing. It's a great addition and as with all hrs product, superbly made and isolates very well.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunes View Post
    Darrin,
    I spoke with Mike Latvis to find out what footer weight /colour range was used for the 19x21 hrs m3 platform when used with the v12 as i had one red m3 and one green m3. I swapped out two feet on each m3 to create the v12 m3 shelf.
    Previously, i had the v12 on a project ground-it deluxe and it was not very well isolated. I use the v12 leveling spikes out about 1/4" When i would knock the stand/shelf you could hear a thump. With the m3 in, i hear nothing. It's a great addition and as with all hrs product, superbly made and isolates very well.
    Chris

    Thx it isn't cheap so hoping it performs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpod4 View Post
    I am listening to amg v12 with Benz lp-s and right now it is my favorite. Rich and musical. If tables were women the sound of the spiral groove and goldfinger statement would be striking and undeniable - the AMG and LP-S would be sultry and beautiful.


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    Ah, very nice description Darren…..I think I need to get myself an AMG! "Sultry and beautiful"….that's exactly how I love my women! Thanks for that….it was the best thing I've read all day!

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    Darrin is a major tease with all his table talk!


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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    Hi Steve,

    Thank you for sharing this link. It was a nice read and sounds like the platform could be very beneficial to the AMG.

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    Great thanks everyone. I ordered my hrs AMG platform. Will report back see if it makes my Benz +AMG even more sultry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpod4 View Post
    Great thanks everyone. I ordered my hrs AMG platform. Will report back see if it makes my Benz +AMG even more sultry.
    I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions of it with the AMG.

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    AMG v12 TURNTABLES

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    Just installed the Benz.

    I love it !!
    And only is one hour of brake in

    Thanks Mike for help me out in finding this real Gem
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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

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    Thanks Mike for help me out in finding this real Gem
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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    sweet nelson congrats, i know you were looking for that cart for awhile now. best of luck with it!!!
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    Guys,
    The Benz is only a few hours and from what I'm hearing I can describe it as very layback sound , non fatiguing , leave your sleepers on you are not going anywhere.

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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    Quote Originally Posted by highEndguy View Post
    Guys,
    The Benz is only a few hours and from what I'm hearing I can describe it as very layback sound , non fatiguing , leave your sleepers on you are not going anywhere.

    Very happy
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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    Quote Originally Posted by highEndguy View Post
    Guys,
    The Benz is only a few hours and from what I'm hearing I can describe it as very layback sound , non fatiguing , leave your sleepers on you are not going anywhere.

    Very happy
    Awesome, Nelson! Sounds like a great cart!


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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    Quote Originally Posted by highEndguy View Post
    Guys,
    The Benz is only a few hours and from what I'm hearing I can describe it as very layback sound , non fatiguing , leave your sleepers on you are not going anywhere.

    Very happy
    Great description. It is the most non fatiguing cartridge I have ever heard. Smooth as a baby's bottom.

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    Do you think it will improve the sound more after break in , because I think I can't handle more ,
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    Do you think it will improve the sound more after break in , because I think I can't handle more ,
    It does improve with break in. I probably have 50-60 hours on mine. It opens up and becomes a bit more dynamic and most recently the sound stage got bigger but I think that had to do with an expert aligning it on my AMG. Also - it can sound thin unless the tracking foxes is at least 1.9 grams or so.

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    You said last time 1.8, No?
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    You said last time 1.8, No?
    Right - 1.8 at minimum. 1.8 - 2.0 has proven ideal in my system.


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    Cool,
    After I reached the 40 hours Mark I will re-check everything including tracking force

    Thanks
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    Listening to AMG V12 and Benz LP-S right now (Michael Hedges "Double Planet"). What is amazing is I have it the LP-S running straight into the air tight ate-1 phono stage that is made for atc-2 preamp. I have never heard my LP-S sound better. Straight into MM phono stage - plenty of gain. Same volume when running thru ARC Ref 2se on MC input. No loading so I assume it is running at 47k. It sounds sweet and dynamic and extended bass and treble. Go figure.




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    Darrin - that is interesting. Glad it's working so well. Glad you're enjoying your new Air Tight preamp.


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    Thanks. This is the air tight i have had awhile. Will post pictures of the air tight ate-2001 reference which is preamp and phono.

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    Was able, with my children's help, to install the custom V12 HRS base for my table. Now I am resting.


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    By the way, HRS shipped this to me in a bullet proof fashion. Wish they would teach other companies how to pack new components.

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    Please let us know how things progress with the dedicated HRS-platform for the AMG V12. I will add AMG to our portfolio shortly, where I'm evaluating the HRS-option as an possible addition.

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    First thing I noticed is it took all nervousness of the sound away. At first I thought it made it less lively, but as I listened more the foundation of the music was much more anchored and fixed in space

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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpod4 View Post
    First thing I noticed is it took all nervousness of the sound away. At first I thought it made it less lively, but as I listened more the foundation of the music was much more anchored and fixed in space
    Interesting, I've never heard the sound of the AMG described as being or having a "nervousness" character to it. I'm not doubting your observations, as I have never had the opportunity to even hear the AMG for myself yet.....just finding the comment as being interesting.

    Have you noticed if any one of your three fantastic tables needing some sort of "platform" more so than the others as far as keeping the stylus steady in the groove, or for helping with the final sound of the analog rig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpod4 View Post
    By the way, HRS shipped this to me in a bullet proof fashion. Wish they would teach other companies how to pack new components.
    +1
    The hrs packing plus wooden shipping crates are excellent though heavy! Noticed you are using the hrs ontop of a symposium platform. Have you tried it with just the hrs?
    Chris

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    Re: AMG v12 TURNTABLES

    Haven't tried it just by itself. I find Stillpoints and HRS to have same effect on all my tables. More anchored. Less distortion (jumpy nervousness in mid band and treble).

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    Anyone have a dustcover over the table? What are the dimensions of it?

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    Anyone have a dustcover over the table? What are the dimensions of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfox7076 View Post
    Anyone have a dustcover over the table? What are the dimensions of it?
    I had a dustcover made.

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    They want dimensions from me. What dimensions is yours?

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    Since this thread is active today let me say that the AMG with the DS Audio Cart was absolutely phenomenal at Axpona in the SF/ARC room. I heard the AMG last year in Mick's same SF/ARC room but his year was even better! (I don't remember last years cart.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlexibleAudio View Post
    Since this thread is active today let me say that the AMG with the DS Audio Cart was absolutely phenomenal at Axpona in the SF/ARC room. I heard the AMG last year in Mick's same SF/ARC room but his year was even better! (I don't remember last years cart.)
    I also really enjoyed hearing the AMG V12 table in Mick's room. In fact, it was my favorite room. No matter what genre of music they played and no matter how many times I came back, the room always sound terrific! The entire system had great synergy, I thought. The Sonus Faber speakers looked absolutely beautiful too. Here are a few pic's from the show...









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    Thanks NR, nice pics.

    I spoke to Mick today and he attributed at least part of the performance to the DS Audio Cart. As he put it "these speakers are half the price of what we used last year and the sound was at least as good." I was also very impressed by this carts a/b comparisons to the Goldfinger on a two arm Innovation with the Magico M's. Silent background, fast and linear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfox7076 View Post
    They want dimensions from me. What dimensions is yours?
    I recommend you wait until you get the turntable. The usual set up is to put the table at an angle. Also, you won't know where the cables are until you see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlexibleAudio View Post
    Thanks NR, nice pics.

    I spoke to Mick today and he attributed at least part of the performance to the DS Audio Cart. As he put it "these speakers are half the price of what we used last year and the sound was at least as good." I was also very impressed by this carts a/b comparisons to the Goldfinger on a two arm Innovation with the Magico M's. Silent background, fast and linear.
    Thanks Paul. It certainly is an exciting time to be in audio...that's for sure!

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    I was told by HRS that it is important to put the v12 straight not angled on the hrs platform given weight distribution.

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    Yeah, I would love to hear that DS cartridge on my AMG or Kronos.

    If they stick around and you stick with the DS it becomes a pretty good deal as it comes with its own phono-stage. very interesting indeed.


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