I am glad in your system you could hear a difference. In mine it was a toss-up. Plus, for serious listening I use my DAC/transport, and Spotify to preview CD's.
Will Tidal Survive
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I am glad in your system you could hear a difference. In mine it was a toss-up. Plus, for serious listening I use my DAC/transport, and Spotify to preview CD's.
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Well...I don't know if it's quite so boring, to those of use who were early adopters...before Jay-Z touched the service; are worried about the direction he's taking it...and/or, are tied-in with certain hardware...like Aurender and the upcoming Aries Mini.
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I'm a Roon w/Tidal user, having just gone in for the full boat. The article seems like it's treating a mole hill as much bigger than it is. I doubt very much that Jay Z would do a major concert in a few days to market the service if he was not committed to it.
Serious question: have you noticed a decline in service since Jay Z's group has bought Tidal?
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NO; and your point is well taken Anthony. I haven't noticed any change, and it is kind of ludicrous...to think that Jay-Z is even at the helms of TIDAL.
He bought it, branded it; is promoting it...but it's not like he has his hands, in the day-to-day minutia. You're right; it's more hype, and a sexy story for the media to push.
I do worry about TIDAL "failing"; but it probably wouldn't have anything to do with Jay-Z, if it did.
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I think there is some cause for concern, only in that this model of music access is very new to the U.S. market and no one can reasonably predict yet how the market will respond. But all these quick hit pieces seem like "me too" piling on for the sake of click bating. Given that it is still quite new, it offers a lot and I think it is money well spent. And this is coming from someone who until recently did not give streaming much thought at all. Pandora and its "pop up ad every 30 seconds" approach is all but a distant memory to me now.
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Well...what I worry about, is only the "homogenized" services surviving. When TIDAL was launched, the whole idea was finally; at least 16-44.1 streaming (and I'm talking about the US; I know TIDAL was essentially WiMP, and there's services like Qobuz...but I think of them mostly in the European markets). I guess my concern, with Jay-Z "at the helm"...is I doubt that's the message anymore; now the message is "music controlled by the artists", or whatever.
For now...as asindc points out...not much has changed; but something is going to happen. It's losing money; hell, I think they ALL are. Music streaming...except maybe iTunes(?)...is waiting to turn the corner, like Satellite Radio was. Profits are not to be had, in the micro-markets; it's in MACRO-markets...like having it in every automobile. Or having it come pre-installed, on every cell phone.
That's going to have NOTHING to do...with maintaining the hi-rate, and SQ. In fact if anything...it'll need to be brought back down, to a) accommodate bandwidth, or b) lower pricing. And talk about your micro-markets; streaming audiophiles, willing to pay extra for higher bitrates?
That's why I hate the acquisition, and any story about how it's not going so well. I guess I had this pipe-dream, that TIDAL (or whomever); would stay this little, boutique service...that catered to us 1% of 1%-ers. We'd pay more than some kid, who didn't care about SQ on his iPhone...and that's how we'd keep them afloat.
With Jay-Zs takeover...TIDAL is just another player, fighting in the mainstream market. And we all know; as soon as this model becomes viable...Apple, Google, Amazon, and/or MS is just going to buy it/over-run it anyway. Think they'll give a rat's a$$ about SQ?
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Stop duplicating my posts! 
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The only thing I noticed different about Tidal since Jay Z took it over is that the home page is inundated with music selections in the Jaz-Z genre which aren't my preference. Other than that, I love Tidal and because of Tidal, I haven't popped in more than few CD's or played more than a few vinyl records in the past year or so. Streaming is an amazing medium and one way or the other, through Tidal, Spotify or another entity, is the future of music listening (IMHO). Now if they only acquired the Beatles catalogue, I probably wouldn't even bother with having a CD player or turntable (I know, blasphemy, but with a good DAC giving us that "analog sound", who needs the snap, crackle and pop of vinyl?). I can't wait to be flamed for my prior sentence . . .
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I agree that TIDAL's CD quality streaming is superb and quite addicting, I'd really hate to see it disappear. Other than for playing vinyl and high resolution digital files, it has become my primary source and the selection that they provide is just amazing. Having the ability to hear so many unknown recordings from my favorite artists, as well as the opportunity to discover new artists and other genres that I was previously unaware of is awesome and well worth the nominal $20 monthly fee. Highly recommended, but please don't hold me responsible for encouraging yet another addictive activity for audiophiles to partake of!
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Looks like they're fighting! :thumbsup:
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Listening to Tidal right now, love it!
"Tyler Bryant and the Shakedown"
"Tyler Bryant and the Shakedown"
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I've adopted similar listening habits - Tidal more than vinyl or CDs.
Tidal's emphasis in certain styles of music goes beyond the home page. I prefer Spotifiy's themed playlists to Tidal's. Spotify seems to put more thought (and better taste) into them. Better variety too.
One thing that intrigues me is that Tidal has the ability to stream hi res concerts and video. I'd love to watch my favorite band/performer "live" in a small theater or club in Denver or Chicago that I couldn't travel to for the night!
Good news about the Beatles catalogue on Tidal! We play Beatles regularly from the NAS and Spotify.
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Dan,
Thanks for the link to Radio Swiss Jazz. It's a terrific station!
Here are three other internet radio jazz stations that I really like:
Audiophile Jazz - Greece - 320 kbps
The Psychomed - Audiophile | Jazz
WBGO Jazz - Newark, NJ
WBGO Live Stream | WBGO Jazz 88.3 FM - Jazz Public Radio Station - NJ and NYC | WBGrg
Jazz Sets NPR with Dee Dee Bridgewater - You select the jazz set. All jazz sets were recorded live and are unique. Kenny Barron/Dave Holland and Russell Malone are my favorites.
http://www.npr.org/series/15773330/jazzset-with-dee-dee-bridgewater
Ken
Wow this was worth the click on the thread, thanks gents! :cheers:
Did you know you can adjust the data rate for both services? Further you can save music to the phone via offline and or cached playback. Beyond that, your undecidedness about these services is evident.
None of us can see the future, enjoy them all while they last - its so easy to cancel and join back at anytime, sometimes with discounts. (Tidal had a three months for one month recently.)
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Thanks - didn't know I could adjust the data rate. On vacation now, so not near my HIFi system. I wonder if I could make those adjustments in the Sonos app too?