Which Vitus Audio Combination with Gauder Berlinas RC 8

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AlterEgo

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Hi all together,

last weekend I had the chance for auditioning Gauder RC 8 with Vitus Audio Electronic. It was a fantastic experience. The best combination I ever heard so far. I listened especially to jazz and classical music. The sounding was very natural with soul. The RC 8 is playing precisely and dynamically but not too obtrusive. The RC 8 was very detailed and offered a high resolution. One thing that strikes my attention when listening to jazz: The warm, soft and rounded but also detailed sounding. I enjoyed it very much.

Last weekend the Vitus Audio players were:

- SIA-025 mk. II
- SS-025 (BiAmping with SIA)
- SCD-025 mk. II

Parallel to the possibility of buying the components above in new condition, I have the chance to purchase two VA SM-011 (mono amps, used; 2 years old; litte bit more expensive). If I combine these two with

- SL-103 Linestage
- SCD-025 mk. II

these combination could be an alternative to the first mentioned combination above (with almost the same price).


I´d love to know your opinion concerning these two alternatives. Perhaps anybody has listened both combinations already. I only listened up to now the Bi-amping-variation and I have really no concrete idea how the monos without bi-amping will change the listening experience.
 
I'm waiting on my SM-103's to go with my SL-103. You may want to wait to hear those. Failing that, a good deal on those used SM-011's is an excellent way to go with the SL-103 and SCD-025 mk2.
 
Since you are from Germany, you may want to visit Polish Vitus distributor, as he also carries Gauder. He has all Gauder models (even those monster, mega buck Gauder Berlina RC11) and all Vitus models (including the Masterpiece series) on permanent display. You would be able to try all possible speaker/amp combinations. He has a great listening room too.
 
If you're considering the Gauder RC8, i'd also recommend auditioning the new Marten Mingus Quintet. The Quintet uses the same Accuton Cell Concept drivers (custom-made to Marten's requirements) and crossover technology as the Coltrane 3's, hence they should sound very coherent and 'live' sounding. A good match with upstream gear would be the SS-103, SL-103 & SCD-025 Mk2. But the Quintet are only a moderate load, so even the SIA-025 Mk2 would have no problem driving them. That is a lovely amp...one of the best sounding ss integrated amps in the world!
 
AlterEgo said:
Melbguy1 thank´s very much for recommendation, but that´s too late:). I ordered the RC 8 yesterday in the afternoon. :celebrate008_2:
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We all have to pull the trigger at some point...Congratulations on your new RC-8's. They are built with great attention to detail, and should bring you many years of enjoyment. Let us know how they're sounding after the initial break in period :thumbsup:.
 
Congratulations! You have chosen a great combination: also Hans Ole Vitus is listening at home with Gauder speakers.

I love the Gauder speakers with class A amps without negative feedback. On the contrary, I never liked Gauder's speakers on the Munich fair with AVM electronics.


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I discussed the two alternatives yesterday with my dealer. He recommended to use the Bi-Amping-combination (SIA-025 & SS-025) and assumed this combination will be more precise and “better controlled” because of the separation of mid & high frequencies on the one side and bass on the other hand. :dunno:

In his opinion the Bi-amping advantage (channel separation) predominates more power of the two SM-011´s and that, although the SL-103 is a weapon alone.
 
...and give the ceramic drivers some time to break-in... they need some hundreds of hours before being fully broken-in!


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Audiophon said:
On the contrary, I never liked Gauder's speakers on the Munich fair with AVM electronics.
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Thank´s Audiophon.

I listened the RC 7 Mk II with AVM SD 6.2 & SA 8.2. Not my world. You can not compare this combination with the VA. AVM did not match to Gauder in my eyes.
 
AlterEgo said:
I discussed the two alternatives yesterday with my dealer. He recommended to use the Bi-Amping-combination (SIA-025 & SS-025) and assumed this combination will be more precise and “better controlled” because of the separation of mid & high frequencies on the one side and bass on the other hand. :dunno:

In his opinion the Bi-amping advantage (channel separation) predominates more power of the two SM-011´s and that, although the SL-103 is a weapon alone.
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At the Munich fair 2015, Vitus was driving the Gauder RC7 exactly with that combination ;-)
 
Correct! With that We played that combination at extremely high volumes (107 db) without any sign of distortion


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AlterEgo said:
Thank´s Audiophon.

I listened the RC 7 Mk II with AVM SD 6.2 & SA 8.2. Not my world. You can not compare this combination with the VA. AVM did not match to Gauder in my eyes.
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I fully agree. For the Munich fair they partner up just for economic reasons, it's not a match made in heaven


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AlterEgo said:
SIA-025 & SS-025 I suppose, or?
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I have not heard the SIA-025 or the SS-025, the SM-011 should be the better sounding power amp then SIA-025 & SS-025 and it has about 40 odd watts of class A power. The SL-103 is the latest pre amp, which should a better pre amp than the one in SIA-025. Personally I would be going down the SM-011 & SL-103 route. I own the SM-011 and use them with my Magico and love the sound they produce. Off course if you can listen to the two combination and see which you pefer.
 
I would ask directly Hans-Ole Vitus for a recommendation as he has lots of experience with the Gauder speakers. He and his wife are very friendly and helpful. Either you drop him a mail or you wait to meet him at the Munich fair.


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Audiophon said:
I would ask directly Hans-Ole Vitus for a recommendation as he has lots of experience with the Gauder speakers.
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I smile silently :D (is this the right idiom?), because I had the same idea on Saturday after posting here in the forum.

I asked Hans-Ole directly on Saturday. I know him personally after a meeting on a smaller High End session some time ago. His recommendation was

Bi-Amping with SIA-025 & SS-025.

The reason for his recommendation is that bi-amping in his eyes is better, when done right, as the currents the bass draws from the poweramplifier always seems to "cloud" a bit the midrange and tweeter. With Bi-Amping that in his opinion goes completely away. He uses at home SIA-025 & SS-025 combo with his RC 9.

"Alea iacta est" --> I will order the SIA-025 and the SS-025 combination.

Thank´s for your support.
 
Great to hear!! I bet the combination will sound awesome! Please keep us updated once all the stuff arrives ;-)


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