We've reached the Summit and...it's Everest!

Hello Caelin,

you mentioned somewhere that silver/grey is the only color for the Everest due to cost/production quantity trade-off. Does this mean there won‘t be a black version in the future? Wasn‘t the Triton available in both black and silver?

I have the Denali v2 for now and really like the black. The Silver front of the Everest looks appropriate for a pinnacle product, but the grey sides are a bit dull on Pumas latest picks (maybe due to flash light). Photo in post #9 looks more attractive, but probably a black-white pic judging from the color in the power cord.

... always these nitpicking customers... I know. ;)
 
Hello Caelin,

you mentioned somewhere that silver/grey is the only color for the Everest due to cost/production quantity trade-off. Does this mean there won‘t be a black version in the future? Wasn‘t the Triton available in both black and silver?

I have the Denali v2 for now and really like the black. The Silver front of the Everest looks appropriate for a pinnacle product, but the grey sides are a bit dull on Pumas latest picks (maybe due to flash light). Photo in post #9 looks more attractive, but probably a black-white pic judging from the color in the power cord.

... always these nitpicking customers... I know. ;)

The Triton v3 is effectively all black with an ability to swap out the front plate only for or a silver one if desired (ie, the front is silver in that case but all other sides remain black). Given the design of the Everest that same option is simply not possible.
 
Hello Caelin,

you mentioned somewhere that silver/grey is the only color for the Everest due to cost/production quantity trade-off. Does this mean there won‘t be a black version in the future? Wasn‘t the Triton available in both black and silver?

I have the Denali v2 for now and really like the black. The Silver front of the Everest looks appropriate for a pinnacle product, but the grey sides are a bit dull on Pumas latest picks (maybe due to flash light). Photo in post #9 looks more attractive, but probably a black-white pic judging from the color in the power cord.

... always these nitpicking customers... I know. ;)


We do not plan to make a black version of the Everest. Due to its price point it will only be produced in limited quantities. The complex design of the case and the size of the massive aluminum faceplate it is quite expensive to produce in small quantities. The two-tone case design is very attractive while a black theme (yes we built prototypes) looks dull and like a large black monolith. This is why we decided not to build a black version.

The Denali 6000/S v2 on the other hand sells in fairly big quantities and the case cost is much less so we were able to make it in two themes: grey/silver and black on black. So people with all black components and are concerned about the aesthetic have that choice.

It is very difficult to photograph large monotone surfaces as I am sure PumaCat will attest. The Everest looks different in different types of lighting. Sometimes with objects like the Everest you get a better idea of the colors are with a short video where the camera moves around the object. Perhaps we can get this done soon.
 
Hi Caelin,

thank you for taking the time to give these detailed answers, much appreciated! And yes, probably best to have a look on it through a video. That’s a neat idea!

Regarding availability in Germany: I‘m not in a particular hurry, since I‘ll be busy trying out the new v2 Sigma and Alpha cables the next weeks. Just to plan my budget spending over the next months: If ordered in the next weeks or so...when would it roughly be available here in the EU? I‘m just wanting to know whether it’ll be more like 1-2 or 4-5 months toward the end of the year.

Thanks a lot and happy Sunday to you guys of the pond! :)
 
I believe that our German distributor already has some on order.

Some units be shipping this coming week.

Audio Excellence
 
Hi Caelin,

thank you for taking the time to give these detailed answers, much appreciated! And yes, probably best to have a look on it through a video. That’s a neat idea!

Regarding availability in Germany: I‘m not in a particular hurry, since I‘ll be busy trying out the new v2 Sigma and Alpha cables the next weeks. Just to plan my budget spending over the next months: If ordered in the next weeks or so...when would it roughly be available here in the EU? I‘m just wanting to know whether it’ll be more like 1-2 or 4-5 months toward the end of the year.

Thanks a lot and happy Sunday to you guys of the pond! :)


If the black theme is important to you, wait for a few months. There will be a “companion” product for the Denali 6000/S and it will be available in black or grey/silver.
 
I have the Denali v2 for now and really like the black. The Silver front of the Everest looks appropriate for a pinnacle product, but the grey sides are a bit dull on Pumas latest picks (maybe due to flash light). Photo in post #9 looks more attractive, but probably a black-white pic judging from the color in the power cord.

... always these nitpicking customers... I know. ;)

and

It is very difficult to photograph large monotone surfaces as I am sure PumaCat will attest. The Everest looks different in different types of lighting. Sometimes with objects like the Everest you get a better idea of the colors are with a short video where the camera moves around the object. Perhaps we can get this done soon.

Okay, let me speak a bit about light and lighting in photography...

Caelin is correct that Everest, any other product, AND a room in a house will look different in different lighting. I'll speak to this as to why in more detail in a moment.

As Caelin has correctly stated, Everest will look different in different lighting. Morever, any product or room will and does look different in different light, even with controlled lighting. This is because light is comprised of several different colors of light and each color has a different intensity in daylight, and there is almost always "color contamination" in most photographs. Most people don't know this, and aren't even aware of this, other than they may notice that different products, particularly those with neutral tones, like the gray sides of Everest, or the white walls of an interior of a home, may look different during different times of day or in different lighting.

Here is an example of one of my real estate photos, showing the red, green and blue color contamination.

RE-Example.jpg


Now here is another photo that had the majority of the color contamination (mostly blue from the daylight coming in from the windows) stripped out (not all because RE agents like photos to have a hint of "warmth" to make the home appear inviting).

5352%20Pac%20Terrace%20LR%20-1.jpg


The sides of Everest are a neutral gray and this color was likely chosen as it will "blend in" to the widest range of color and color decors in an audio room, professional studio, mastering room, or other environment.

The reason that you may find the color in Post #9 to be "nicer" is because it was shot in a studio environment with controlled lighting. It is not a black and white photo, it is a color photo with all the color contamination stripped out to make the photograph technically "neutral" to show the actual color as accurately as possible*.

Just to provide some example of this, here is a shot of the rear of Everest showing the blue color contamination on the right side of the case.

Everest-Blue02.jpg


And now, the red color contamination on the rear of Everest in the same exact photo.

Everest-Red.jpg


While this is not a video, these two photos demonstrates exactly Caelin's point that Everest will look somewhat different as you move around the object, depending on the color of the light falling on Everest from different angles. So, if you see different photos and the color of Everest (or any product, for that matter) looks different in different shots, its very likely due to differences in color of the light falling on that product, rather than the product itself.

Here is a proof of the final photo with all the color contamination stripped out with a gradient background applied in compositing.

14-Everest_Rear_LAngle_Grad.jpg


The reason that the gray sides Everest may look a bit darker (or what you refer to as duller) in Post #1 is because it was a single frame shot with ambient light, that is, just the daylight coming through the windows. The reason it wasn't shot with "lights" is because its my small "living space" (its too small to even be called a "room"), and I literally didn't have room to set up lights to shoot Everest in this photo with my lights.

As you can see here, on the left side of my room, there is a large couch that prevents me from setting up my lights for the shot in Post #1. To take the photo, I had to remove the narrower rack so I could place Everest to the left of the main, larger rack.
Side-View-Daylight.jpg


The first two photos in Post #1 were shot at different times on different days. The first photo was simply a "proof" that was shot and sent to Caelin to determine if he liked the angle and setup. I included it here because Caelin liked the shot. The second photo was shot at a more optimal time of day with respect to light so that the windows in back would not "blow out", and you will note there is more light in the room, and Everest looks brighter in that frame because...there is more luminance (light) on it. The color on the sides in the second photo is representative of the neutral gray that the sides are painted with. Again, both shots were ambient light, though I stripped out the large amount of color contamination that occurs with daylight.

Also, just to put things in perspective, the first two photos were specifically shot to show the size of Everest to provide a sense of scale next to a typical audio rack. It is not what I would consider a professional-quality "lifestyle" photo because of the constraints I was working with within the room.

Hope this help explains why products look different in different light.

*bear in mind, that unless one is viewing photos on a calibrated and/or profiled display, even the same photograph in a post on the web will look different on any user's monitor or color display. To see the photos most accurately, you need to view them on a calibrated display with a Delta-E less than 2.0, color temp at ~5800K Kelvin with a gamma of 2.2
 
Thank you very much for the very detailed answer! Apparently you know a thing or two about photography!!

It also reminded me that I have my iPhone night shift „anti-blue“ filter on all the time, which additionally alters the color temperature - though deactivating it didn‘t change the tone all that much. Anyway...
Best then to watch maybe a video, but in any case the grey color is not show stopper. The front is beautiful and in the end it‘s not yellow with pink dots on it.
 
Hi Puma Cat

Don't want to derail this thread but I am extremely interested in your thoughts on the First Music Pre Amp. Perhaps a separate thread or PM to limit any Everest product dilution.

Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
 
Puma Cat:

Thank you for the great photos of the Everest and the great care which you used to make them. Caelin and the people at Shunyata must certainly be proud of your efforts and appreciate your photography skills.

On a side note, I’m anxious to receive my Everest. I’m not sure where I’m on in the list (USA order) or when to expect it. It was ordered on May 22 along with an Omega XC to go with it.

Caelin:

Any timeframe for estimated delivery of the Everest once an order has been placed?
 
Puma Cat:

Thank you for the great photos of the Everest and the great care which you used to make them. Caelin and the people at Shunyata must certainly be proud of your efforts and appreciate your photography skills.

On a side note, I’m anxious to receive my Everest. I’m not sure where I’m on in the list (USA order) or when to expect it. It was ordered on May 22 along with an Omega XC to go with it.

Caelin:

Any timeframe for estimated delivery of the Everest once an order has been placed?

The first of them will be shipping this coming week.
We have quite a backlog already.
 
Hi Puma Cat

Don't want to derail this thread but I am extremely interested in your thoughts on the First Music Pre Amp. Perhaps a separate thread or PM to limit any Everest product dilution.

Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

G'day, Rob!

Yes, I will be happy to provide a review of the First Sound preamp in a separate post. This unit was very kindly sent to me on loan for evaluation.

I am so impressed with it that tomorrow I will be mailing payment to purchase my own First Sound preamp.

While I presently own and enjoy a very fine C-J preamp, the CT-5 you see in the 2nd photo in post #1 and have heard many other very fine preamps, the First Sound is, hands-down, the finest preamp I have ever heard. it is, in my opinion, a work of art.
 
If the black theme is important to you, wait for a few months. There will be a “companion” product for the Denali 6000/S and it will be available in black or grey/silver.

Or a can of black spray paint should fix it :)
 
The first of them will be shipping this coming week.
We have quite a backlog already.

Thanks Caelin. Looking forward to it’s arrival .:popcorn:
Bet that all of you at Shunyata are working overtime to get these out to all of us who have preordered them.
Take care and stay healthy to all of you at Shunyata.
 
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