Sweet Spot Distance

For Wilson speakers, the WASP suggests 1.1 - 1.25 times the distance between tweeters. I've moved up a wee bit at times to the shorter end of that range, but had the speakers voiced at the far end of that range. I do notice some differences moving forward and back, but usually just settle in and enjoy the music. For me, the distance/listening height could allow a tweak to the setting for the tweeter module, but that just depends on how much I am reclining in my chair.
 
i'm a strong proponent of being exactly at the tip of the equilateral triangle....i.e. tweeter <-> tweeter = tweeter <-> ear.

toe-in and toe-out is always somewhat a tuning issue.

here is a related recent experience

I also believe that one's visual comfort zone while listening gets in the way of ideal set-up. in my case my twin tower speakers are each 7 feet tall and 750 pounds. that's 4 huge towers. sitting at the head of the equilateral triangle with those monsters does mess with visitors heads initially until they relax and listen.

and less than ideal treatment of first reflections also will tend to push one back thinking it's too 'hot' in that spot when the cause of that reaction is not listening ratio but lack of treatment.

the payoff of the equilateral triangle position is holographic imaging according to the recording.......each recording is 'more unique' in that listening position. moving back tends to make recordings less unique. the 'room effect' gets imprinted over the recording.

all those thoughts assumes one has the flexibility to sit where you might want to and having a room that is a rectangle. we don't all have those choices.
 
Bobvin said:
For Wilson speakers, the WASP suggests 1.1 - 1.25 times the distance between tweeters. I've moved up a wee bit at times to the shorter end of that range, but had the speakers voiced at the far end of that range. I do notice some differences moving forward and back, but usually just settle in and enjoy the music. For me, the distance/listening height could allow a tweak to the setting for the tweeter module, but that just depends on how much I am reclining in my chair.
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I'm also with Bob in this one.
 
IMO,


The equilateral triangle holographic effect is a recording phenomenon, nothing really to do with live-music reproduction , best to tune your setup to the effect that suits you best , for some its straight ahead no toe for others only massive toe in will suffice..


Best to experiment with what works for you and your room, their here or you are there kind of experience .

Regards
 
a.wayne said:
IMO,


The equilateral triangle holographic effect is a recording phenomenon, nothing really to do with live-music reproduction , best to tune your setup to the effect that suits you best , for some its straight ahead no toe for others only massive toe in will suffice..
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certainly agree that aspects of the potential holographic phenomenon of stereo are not like the live experience. OTOH optimizing the holographic aspect of stereo brings along with it many other benefits.

first; your stereo reproduction goal should be to reproduce the truth of the recording; which will resemble the 'live' experience to varying degrees. and everything you do with your electronics, signal path, room set-up, acoustical treatments, power grid, shelves, footers, and bass linearity is all serving that end. the listening position is one of the more dominant aspects of your presentation so it's optimization is very important. maybe your personal sonic priorities place holographic imaging down the list. but still when that gets optimized everything else has to be right too.

personally I find that as I reduce distortion in the system in various ways I get more separation between various musical themes and more clear rendering and articulation of bass and dynamics, and more clarity on peaks. all these things also contribute to bettering the holographic presentation. not that that issue is the specific goal in and of itself, only that it's evidence of progress in performance.

lastly; speakers disappearing is at the heart of hearing the recording and not the room and reproduction chain. the greater the holographic nature of the presentation, the more your speakers are disappearing. so if a listening position has a greater ability to allow the speakers to disappear then that is positive.

will sitting at the tip of the equilateral triangle always optimize holographic rendering? so far it has in my experience, but I don't know that it always works that way.


Best to experiment with what works for you and your room, their here or you are there kind of experience .

Regards
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there is no wrong approach to this issue; only that the more one understands choices and cause and effect the better one is equipped to optimize for their own tastes. and sometimes until you actually hear what is possible your mind can be a bit closed.
 
Mike,

I dont disagree with your assertions , as a Matter of fact I'm in agreement , i do agree fully if your goal is as you describe, but ! In my experience not everyone is seeking the same , hence the myriad of different setups used by many , as well as the requirements for a point source speaker vs linesource vs dipoles vs Omni's ...

For the record i myself favor the 3d effect in playback , but i have known Many who favor a large format sound like they hear at concerts and have no interest in the recording effect..

Regards
 
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