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Fremer won't have to pay that much. I'm looking forward to reading the review. I wonder how it compares to his Kuzma 4 point? Yes, with the top Durand and Vertere?, some tonearms are becoming very expensive. But look at cartridges and phono stages. A few people are willing to pay these prices.
 
PeterA said:
Fremer won't have to pay that much. I'm looking forward to reading the review. I wonder how it compares to his Kuzma 4 point? Yes, with the top Durand and Vertere?, some tonearms are becoming very expensive. But look at cartridges and phono stages. A few people are willing to pay these prices.
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Don't forget the Axiom arm. I think the one thing that these arms offer over their lower priced brethren is OPTIMIZING the arm for EACH cartridge. Right now, it always seems that certain cartridges sound better in certain arms.

But these are hardly mass produced arms: they are essentially one off machined pieces. See the Vertere for instance. I still want to hear the new Walker arm with remote control VTA/SRA.
 
I know what you mean Mark. Personally, I admit that I do not understand tonearms. To me they just have the wires in them and hold the head shell which holds the cart. All I know is that any change of the material of the tonearm effects set up. (I need to find a class on tonearms because I don't understand how they effect sound, but I know they mean everything to set up).

~Eric
 
It was one of the more thorough (and thoughtful) reviews in recent memory. I'd like to not hear it too.
 
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billhart said:
It was one of the more thorough (and thoughtful) reviews in recent memory. I'd like to not hear it too.
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Myles B. Astor said:
Don't forget the Axiom arm. I think the one thing that these arms offer over their lower priced brethren is OPTIMIZING the arm for EACH cartridge. Right now, it always seems that certain cartridges sound better in certain arms.

But these are hardly mass produced arms: they are essentially one off machined pieces. See the Vertere for instance. I still want to hear the new Walker arm with remote control VTA/SRA.
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The SAT certainly would fall into the one-off category, each built to order, and the price reflects that. You have to wonder if they intend to introduce a 12" version.

An example of cartridges matched to tonearms is Kuzma, with their CAR series of cartridges they designed and which are manufactured in Japan. It would stand to reason Fremer will review the Kuzma CAR-50 cartridge in the 4Point arm. I've had that combo here since early on.
 
Fremer said it cremes every arm he has ever used or heard.

Mark Dohman ( aka Continuum) I believe used the tonearm at Munich with his new table.
 
XV-1 said:
Fremer said it cremes every arm he has ever used or heard.

Mark Dohman ( aka Continuum) I believe used the tonearm at Munich with his new table.
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High calibre recommendation.
 
If the SAT is such a specialty product and one presumes must be ordered direct or through a an extremely small distribution network, what happened to Stereophile's requirement that there be five authorized US dealers set up before they will write a review of a product? Have they abandoned that requirement?
 
Of course John has on more than one occasion stated there exceptions to the rule such as products sold direct and there are more than a few today. But how many of the analog products that Michael reviews meet that criteria? How many dealers did the Continuum have?

I know the designer was in the States earlier this year because he offered to bring the arm by and set it up for me to hear. Unfortunately the Classic Direct is not the most amenable table for swapping arms. It can be done but it's a little bit of a chore and arms with cables that exit down are more out. Perhaps he amassed some dealers too?
 
It sounds as if they have abandoned the rule as the industry has changed. Thanks Myles.
 
Peter,

I haven't seen the issue where the review is, but Fremer reviews products in his monthly column ("Analog Corner", IIRC), and those are not subject to the 5-dealer rule. Same for the other columnists.


alexandre
 
John has had a direct marketing policy for sometime now , if sold directly he waves the 5 dealer limit , In reality he should lower the 5 to 2 considering .


Regards
 
asiufy said:
Peter,

I haven't seen the issue where the review is, but Fremer reviews products in his monthly column ("Analog Corner", IIRC), and those are not subject to the 5-dealer rule. Same for the other columnists.


alexandre
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You are right I have heard this before from the top, Analog Corner can if the product is something special by pass the 5 dealer rule.

Fermer has not heard the the Vertere arm as far as I know. I wonder who is the king of the hill, most likely which works best with which table. This new arm looks a bit like a SME V inspired design.

As far as price goes I gave up on that one a long time ago.

The web site says a detachable head shell .
 
a.wayne said:
The best tonearm is the one that is the best......
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The best at what price , build , highs , mids , lows , long life , stays in adjustment , highest mark up for the dealer , coolest looking , review , tracking , exotic material , length , weight , country it is built in, warranty

I was just comparing two arms one I have tried to buy and one I just heard of.
 
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