Speakers directly on floor ......no spikes question

Dguitarnut

Dguitarnut

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After unboxing the my new Mágicos I slid them on pads to approximate positions and impatiently hooked them up to my system.
I was very impressed with the bass which had a character I had not experienced before...maybe a little heavy but a nice heavy. After a
couple of tunes I was able with a little wife help get the spikes on and the bass normalized.
My home is a condo with tile floors on top of sound mitigating sonoguard over solid concrete floors and ceilings.
I have been experimenting with a center rug but i have not reached any conclusions.
I am just wondering if any of you have your speakers directly on the surface without spiking and what you thoughts of pros or cons to doing this.
From what I understand the spikes channel the speaker vibrations to the floor and at the same time isolate the floor vibrations going back to the speakers. I’m sure in the speaker design the added height of the spikes factor in to the position of woofers midranges tweeters etc.
Also Magico S series solid rigid one piece construction may play in a part of perhaps being an exception to the rule compared to other speakers.
I may try no spikes again just for pooops and giggles!:rolleyes:
Larry
 
Larry - definitely you want to use the supplied spikes and the SPOD's are another step above those (by a considerable margin). The S3 mk2's are designed to be on spikes/SPOD's. I'm back from ARC now and can give you a hand today or tomorrow or next week. I can also bring the SPOD's for you to try.
 
When did spikes come about? My old Bozaks concert grand and infinity QLS1 speakers in my previous hifi days rested on regular footings or directly on the floor.
Obviously by the lack of responses no one has tried this. :ninja:
Yes Mikey.......you can come over and play any time....just bring a lot of nice toys
:congrats:
Larry
 
In my opinion, to have the speakers directly on the floor is a mistake.
We have more bass but is a colored bass. Spikes do exactly what you describe.


Dguitarnut said:
From what I understand the spikes channel the speaker vibrations to the floor and at the same time isolate the floor vibrations going back to the speakers.
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Larry, I think you will experience several changes in your S3 Mk II bass (especially overdone bass) until you get north of 500 hours on them. Spikes/SPODs will help manage this, but you won't hear what these guys can really do until they are fully broken in.
 
CPP said:
To spike or not depends on your room and the sound your after. try different types of elevation devices. Only you will know when you hear it.
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I´m with you.
We can use some different type of devices but never the speaker directly on the floor
 
My Shahinian speakers were not designed for spikes. Dick Shahinian designed his speakers for casters or footers. I my case the design was to place them directly on the floor with neither. For about five years I placed them on some type of footer. Custom made wood stands, hockey pucks, rubber feet, cork, etc. When I told Dick they always sounded better on some kind to footer he was supprised. I have always had solid concrete floors covered with padding and wall-to-wall carpet. When I moved to a different sound room I worked for two years to get them to sound good. I did everything but put them directly on the floor. Low and behold, that is exactly what I ended up doing. I hate spikes simply because of the inconvenience. I seem to always have a need to reposition my speakers, and spikes make this impractical. Putting discs under the spikes to protect the floor seems to defeat the purpose. My opinion is to start with whatever the speakers were voiced for, and go from there. Always taking into account the floor composition. Trampoline floors will react differently to poured concrete. After all, we love this hobby because there are no hard rules. Most accepted “rules of the day” are eventually debunked anyway. Tweak away.
 
Also look at IsoAcoustics. It’s a cheaper alternative to Stillpoints, and give the same benefit.


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After I posted how great my Shahinians sounded directly on the floor, I got this bug in my head. I tried the Herbie’s big fat giant sliders (exagerating a tiny bit with the name). Well they work good enough to keep, at $23 a piece. Overall a nice tweak on the cheap. Took some boom off my woofer modules and made a piano sound more like a piano. Likey, likey.
 
My Quad 57’s in their original three-pronged feet are sitting on the carpet. Do you 57 owners use anything underneath the feet and if so does it make an appreciable difference?
 
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