Shunyata Products in the Medical Field

It shows their technology really works. I would love to see the results from various other vendors cables and power conditioners. This would be an interesting exercise for a third party test house.
 
No doubt with all of the grants that are given to medical research that somebody will do a study to test various cords.
 
Medical grade IEC filters have been around for years.

Indeed, advanced EM/RF inline suppression filter technology is produced by many specialised companies all over the world for the medical, electrical and electronics industries.

I certainly believe in the benefits derived from component to component inline EM/RF filtering as do many manufacturers and audiophiles. And now does Shunyata...

Furutech's IEC filter range of which are also incorporated into their inline filter products, their reference being the Flux-50 is a fabulous product. Many audiophiles will testify to this and the benefits.

McIntosh use IEC filters of their required specification in their reference HiFi products as do many other brands.

I have been critical about Shunyata's lack of consideration to EM/RF suppression in the past, particularly at a time when they produced unshielded cables. It is interesting now they are finally taking notice at what is considered a commonly accepted industry wide application when it comes to sensitive electronics usage worldwide.

Before I go on, I am already blessed to have a good, stable and clean 240v Australian power supply. That doesn't mean it's perfect because anything that draws on the juice will mess it up. Even the good HiFi gear.

I still use Shunyata Hydra distributors albeit with Furutech Flux-50 plugged into each HiFi component and power cables (Siltech & Furutech). These feed from the Hydra distributors. The Flux-50 EM/RF inline suppression filters do much more to improve the power quality than the Hydras could ever do alone. Well, perhaps until Denali is launched....

Now I hardly see this as new technology but will watch the hype surrounding Shunyata's new Denali products when released for sale sometime in May. Shunyata are great at marketing and keeping existing customers wanting on their upgrade train.

It would seem that the upcoming Denali power distributors have cable supporters framing the outlets meaning that only Shunyata power cables will fit into them.... Perhaps when the final product is released, that specification might change from the prototype photos that Shunyata are currently circulating all over the Internet. Not everyone uses Shunyata power distributors with Shunyata power cables, self included.

Even the die-hard Shunyata fans out there have a DC wart or two...
 
Steve said:
Medical grade IEC filters have been around for years.

Indeed, advanced EM/RF inline suppression filter technology is produced by many specialised companies all over the world for the medical, electrical and electronics industries.

I certainly believe in the benefits derived from component to component inline EM/RF filtering as do many manufacturers and audiophiles. And now does Shunyata...

Furutech's IEC filter range of which are also incorporated into their inline filter products, their reference being the Flux-50 is a fabulous product. Many audiophiles will testify to this and the benefits.

McIntosh use IEC filters of their required specification in their reference HiFi products as do many other brands.

I have been critical about Shunyata's lack of consideration to EM/RF suppression in the past, particularly at a time when they produced unshielded cables. It is interesting now they are finally taking notice at what is considered a commonly accepted industry wide application when it comes to sensitive electronics usage worldwide.

Before I go on, I am already blessed to have a good, stable and clean 240v Australian power supply. That doesn't mean it's perfect because anything that draws on the juice will mess it up. Even the good HiFi gear.

I still use Shunyata Hydra distributors albeit with Furutech Flux-50 plugged into each HiFi component and power cables (Siltech & Furutech). These feed from the Hydra distributors. The Flux-50 EM/RF inline suppression filters do much more to improve the power quality than the Hydras could ever do alone. Well, perhaps until Denali is launched....

Now I hardly see this as new technology but will watch the hype surrounding Shunyata's new Denali products when released for sale sometime in May. Shunyata are great at marketing and keeping existing customers wanting on their upgrade train.

It would seem that the upcoming Denali power distributors have cable supporters framing the outlets meaning that only Shunyata power cables will fit into them.... Perhaps when the final product is released, that specification might change from the prototype photos that Shunyata are currently circulating all over the Internet. Not everyone uses Shunyata power distributors with Shunyata power cables, self included.

Even the die-hard Shunyata fans out there have a DC wart or two...
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You have proffered many opinions above, Steve. All are entirely inaccurate. As a matter of simple correction, I'll respond to your comments with specifics.

Our success in the medical industry has nothing to do with in-line IEC filters, as you implied. Likely, you have not read or understood anything to do with our medical applications. We have developed multi-outlet conditioning products with patented internal technology. We've augmented that with our shielded power cords in applications within many hospital and electrophysiology clinics. The results have been consistent and offered dramatic, documented proof of the system's efficacy.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]We have manufactured shielded power cords since 1999. We continue to manufacture unshielded power cords because they perform far better at the top of the performance scale in music and recording related audio-systems. Your comments about interference from unshielded power cords have zero merit and we’ve explained this in deep technical detail on other forums you raised this issue on. This is an old, tired argument and you have been answered.[/FONT]

Our POV about in-system component generated noise being a problem for low-level signal resolution has been explained in detail on our web, on forums and in our many published Patents since 2001. I don't need to defend that here. It's ridiculous for you to make the inference that we copied anyone.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]We have existing Patents and Patent-Pending technology in the medical products and soon-to-be Denali power-distributors, so your "nothing new" comments are once again, without any merit. I posted a few pic's of the units and some details on the What's Best forum about Denali because people asked for information. Your "the photos Shunyata is circulating all over the internet" comments are again, without any basis in fact and call into question your motives for posting grossly inaccurate comments.[/FONT]

Further, your comments about the cable supports on the back of Denali are simply and plainly false. Any power cord of reasonable size and spec will fit into those outlets. We know because we've tested dozens of connectors and power cord models. You have proof otherwise?

Steve, you have every right to promote whatever products you love here or elsewhere. You shouldn't have the right to make repeated, false statements or accusations toward companies with well-explained technologies, Patents and credible accomplishment. Posting the many comments you have should come with some responsibility to intellectual honesty. From my view, that is not in evidence here.

Grant
Shunyata Research
 
GrantS said:
You have proffered many opinions above, Steve. All are entirely inaccurate. As a matter of simple correction, I'll respond to your comments with specifics.

Our success in the medical industry has nothing to do with in-line IEC filters, as you implied. Likely, you have not read or understood anything to do with our medical applications. We have developed multi-outlet conditioning products with patented internal technology. We've augmented that with our shielded power cords in applications within many hospital and electrophysiology clinics. The results have been consistent and offered dramatic, documented proof of the system's efficacy.

We have manufactured shielded power cords since 1999. We continue to manufacture unshielded power cords because they perform far better at the top of the performance scale in music and recording related audio-systems. Your comments about interference from unshielded power cords have zero merit and we’ve explained this in deep technical detail on other forums you raised this issue on. This is an old, tired argument and you have been answered.

Our POV about in-system component generated noise being a problem for low-level signal resolution has been explained in detail on our web, on forums and in our many published Patents since 2001. I don't need to defend that here. It's ridiculous for you to make the inference that we copied anyone.

We have existing Patents and Patent-Pending technology in the medical products and soon-to-be Denali power-distributors, so your "nothing new" comments are once again, without any merit. I posted a few pic's of the units and some details on the What's Best forum about Denali because people asked for information. Your "the photos Shunyata is circulating all over the internet" comments are again, without any basis in fact and call into question your motives for posting grossly inaccurate comments.

Further, your comments about the cable supports on the back of Denali are simply and plainly false. Any power cord of reasonable size and spec will fit into those outlets. We know because we've tested dozens of connectors and power cord models. You have proof otherwise?

Steve, you have every right to promote whatever products you love here or elsewhere. You shouldn't have the right to make repeated, false statements or accusations toward companies with well-explained technologies, Patents and credible accomplishment. Posting the many comments you have should come with some responsibility to intellectual honesty. From my view, that is not in evidence here.

Grant
Shunyata Research
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Grant...Thanks for your company's position. I'm sure you will put many potential customers' minds at ease especially with regards to the cable supports on the upcoming Denali. They certainly looked a bit slim from your photos that are circulating around the internet. So you have stated that any power cable of reasonable size will interface to Denali power distributors without hindrance.

Every consumer is entitled to an opinion and viewpoint. I make no inferences or false accusations. Indeed, many manufacturers welcome real feedback. After all, I am a Shunyata customer that has had (and continues to have in commission) various Shunyata products in my system. I have other products in my system also, some of which compete directly with Shunyata products. I have similarly offered my opinions and viewpoints about them on forums whether that be positive or negative. There are many HiFi enthusiasts and the like that rely on real world feedback as part of their purchasing decision making processes no matter how objectively or subjectively biased. Many people simply don't have the opportunity to trial or test and end up buying on blind faith. Sometimes these people end up disappointed by product claims, sometimes not.

I take no offence at your personal attack on me. There shouldn't be a need for you to take such a defensive (or offensive) posture as the products you are talking about should "evidently" stand up for themselves in the market place. Like you stated elsewhere, you don't even know how well your new products will be received and time will tell...
 
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Steve said:
I take no offence at your personal attack on me. There shouldn't be a need for you to take such a defensive (or offensive) posture as the products you are talking about should "evidently" stand up for themselves in the market place. Like you stated elsewhere, you don't even know how well your new products will be received and time will tell...
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Steve, give it a rest. Your bias against Shunyata is well known on the Internet, and you were banned from another forum for your non-stop attacks. Your idle speculation here was countered with facts, and there was no personal attack against you.

From my perspective, every Shunyata product I have tried, except for the Typhon, has exceeded my expectations. However, even though I did not hear a big difference by adding the $5k Typhon, I haven't gone on vendetta against Shunyata as you have over a much less expensive product. Sometimes things work great in a system, other times not. These things happen in a subjective hobby.
 
Bud... For the record I was never banned from another forum. Indeed I respectfully resigned myself due to the commercial conflict of interests that resulted in my opinions being moderated.
 
I am kindly asking everyone to keep things positive. Shunyata makes amazing products - I use them myself. Let's stay focused on the good that they do in ones system (i.e. their Digital power cables are crazy good in my system).

If we want manufacturers to participate on AS and provide guidance and support and insight, we can't be bashing their products. Keep it positive please.


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Steve said:
Bud... For the record I was never banned from another forum. Indeed I respectfully resigned myself due to the commercial conflict of interests that resulted in my opinions being moderated.
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Really. This is an interesting way to characterize your departure. It fits with your agenda.

Let's not gild the lily, Steve. If anything you were allowed every opportunity to gild redirect your energy at AA. Some of your posts were so far over the top it became impossible to address. You were on a mission.

I've never had an issue with questions or criticisms on forums. Caelin and I have made ourselves available and answered all sincere queries, critical or not. Your mentions there and now come across as strictly disingenuous. You are not asking questions. You are clearly and repeatedly intending harm. That handcuffs any genuine response.

There are the reasons you are not posting on AA any longer, regardless of how you sell your departure. I understand you "own some of our products." That does not buy you a license to mischaracterize a companies technologies, science and parts without any accountability.

You are carefully moderating your comments here compared to the past but the intent is the same. I see little point in our participation given your inability to leave these issues alone.

We should all be posting comments about what we love about music, electronics and companies we feel good about. Let's leave it there and go about our way.

Grant
Shunyata Research
 
Grant, I don't know Steve personally (other than on this forum) or what happened with you and Steve on AA in the past. But I do think what he said about Shunyata on this thread doesn't seem to deserve the treatment he gets. Just thought I'd mention this.

BTW, love the Alpha Digital. Fantastic product at a very good price point. I use it on all my digital devices. Have 4 of them and just bought another one.
 
GrantS said:
Really. That's an interesting way to characterize your departure. It fits with your agenda.

Let's not gild the lily, Steve. If anything, you were allowed every opportunity to re-direct your energy at AA. Some of your posts were so far over the top it became impossible to address. You were on a mission.

I've never had an issue with questions or criticisms on forums. Caelin and I have made ourselves available and answered all sincere queries, critical or not. Your attentions there and now, come across as strictly disingenuous. You are not asking questions. You are clearly and repeatedly intending harm. That handcuff's any genuine response.

These are the reasons why you are not posting on AA any longer, regardless of how you to sell your departure. I understand you "own some of our products." That does not buy you a license to mischaracterize a legitimate company's technologies, science and parts, without any accountability.

You are carefully moderating your comments here compared to the past, but the intent is the same. I see little point in our participation given your inability to leave these issues alone.

We should all be posting positive comments about what we love about music, electronics and companies that we feel good about. Let's leave it there and we can all go about our way.

Grant
Shunyata Research
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Grant....I have no commercial agenda, I do not get paid to write, I do not receive incentive to write nor do I receive any sponsorship fees. I have no competing product to sell. How could I possibly have an agenda.

I choose to write opinion online to offer a genuine perspective to enthusiastic readers who are looking to buy HiFi equipment such as a cable or a power distributor based on what I know, learnt and have experienced as a consumer.

I choose to write on Audioshark because it is unbiased. Indeed it's been over 2 years since I joined Audioshark and I tend to write here exclusively when I feel I have the time and wish to make a contribution.

The best advice I could ever give anyone before they choose to buy expensive HiFi equipment or accessories is for them to do their own research.

As with anything, each individual's mileage may vary.


If you believe you have a compelling story that differentiates itself from other existing or competing solutions in the market place, then by all means write about it in a recognisable way.
 
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