Really?

jdandy

jdandy

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$12,000.00

What can that kind of money bring to your sound system?

One of these.....
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Or one of these.....


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Hmm?

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Mike.......Cute.

When I look at these two audio products I can't help but think of the engineering and design expertise, materials, build quality, production and assembly hours, among other things that represent the inherent and true value of each one. Like so many things in the audio world, I am often left scratching my head at the price of certain things.
 
The same could be said of a Porsche 911 Vs a pair of Wilson Alexx speakers.

Building a great sounding cartridge is a fine art (literally). The great master craftsman in the art are dying off. The Transfiguration designer for example, recently passed away. He was in his 80’s.

Lyra carts are all hand made by master Japanese craftsman and they often average a year or more wait to get one. The Lyra’s I believe are hand built by Master craftsman, Yoshinori Mishima.

That’s not to take away from the outstanding 2301’s, it’s just that not everything is as it seems. Bigger isn’t necessarily better. Just different in this case.


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I don't think a vinyl record would last too long with that Mac hanging off the end of the tonearm.
Just saying..
 
SuperDave said:
Dan,
Are you getting a center channel, otherwise it's $24,000?;)
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Dave.......Yes, I hear you, but to perform at its purported performance level the Lyra Atlas will need a $20K phono stage preamp, a $20K turntable, and at least a $10K tonearm, all installed on a minimum of a $10K isolation rack. So the true cost of getting the Lyra Atlas to make it's first note of music is in the range of $72,000.00. Then you get to spin vinyl, a considerable portion of which is recorded and pressed poorly. Yippie!

The premise of my original point was not so much the actual cost of any particular audio component in general, but more along the lines of the disparity that exists in pricing between specific items. Pointing to my original example, the amount of engineering expertise, bill of materials, hand assembly expertise and manufacturing technology that goes into a high-end amplifier far exceeds that that goes into building a moving coil cartridge of any caliber, yet in my example both command a $12K price. It leaves me wondering if the actual value of the items have parallels that shed light on the price.
 
jdandy said:
Dave.......Yes, I hear you, but to perform at its purported performance level the Lyra Atlas will need a $20K phono stage preamp, a $20K turntable, and at least a $10K tonearm, all installed on a minimum of a $10K isolation rack. So the true cost of getting the Lyra Atlas to make it's first note of music is in the range of $72,000.00. Then you get to spin vinyl, a considerable portion of which is recorded and pressed poorly. Yippie!
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$152,000 if you don't pass up the new power conditioner we all have seen:D. I know you have a pair of 2301's, i was just joking about what you'd do with a third. I'm digital only for now, so no need for the Lyra Atlas yet. Maybe Lyra speakers...

Dave
 
a.wayne said:
You dont have to , its a given ....
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Yes, you are right, it is a given that a $72,000 turntable setup will never best digital. :D (MSB, Berkley, dCS, Lampi, or for someone with a lower budget T+A :) )

DSD512/48 all the way baby!!!
 
jdandy said:
Dave.......Yes, I hear you, but to perform at its purported performance level the Lyra Atlas will need a $20K phono stage preamp, a $20K turntable, and at least a $10K tonearm, all installed on a minimum of a $10K isolation rack. So the true cost of getting the Lyra Atlas to make it's first note of music is in the range of $72,000.00. Then you get to spin vinyl, a considerable portion of which is recorded and pressed poorly. Yippie!

The premise of my original point was not so much the actual cost of any particular audio component in general, but more along the lines of the disparity that exists in pricing between specific items. Pointing to my original example, the amount of engineering expertise, bill of materials, hand assembly expertise and manufacturing technology that goes into a high-end amplifier far exceeds that that goes into building a moving coil cartridge of any caliber, yet in my example both command a $12K price. It leaves me wondering if the actual value of the items have parallels that shed light on the price.
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You funny Dan. :)
 
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