Ordered the M3 today !

a.wayne said:
ok admittedly a lazy question so let me regroup and come again..:)


M3 is superior to S5 mk2, as reviewed. But with all this Magico numerology its difficult to keep up , is M3 superior to Q3 , Q7? is the Q series still tops or is the M-Series now tops , what differentiate all these model series , S? M? Q? ...


Regards
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Q series is soon retired.

M series represents "newer" technology with a "cost no object" approach to SOTA speaker design, build and technology.

S/S mk2 series represents a combination of some of the trickle down from the M Pro/M3, along with some compromises where impact is minimal representing a "best value" approach. In addition to drivers, compare the cabinet structure, curved baffle front, etc. between S and M.

The tricky decision a customer may have to make is between S7 and M3. They are close in price.

In car terms, the S3 mk2 is the BMW 335i. The M3 is well...the M3!



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Mike said:
M series represents "newer" technology with a "cost no object" approach to SOTA speaker design, build and technology.

S/S mk2 series represents a combination of some of the trickle down from the M Pro/M3, along with some compromises where impact is minimal representing a "best value" approach.
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+ 1 :thumbsup:.

Mike said:
In car terms, the S3 mk2 is the BMW 335i. The M3 is well...the M3!
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...and the S5 Mk2? :audiophile:
 
bzr said:
What subs is he using with his Magico speakers?
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My friend is, or I should say was running Wilson Torus Infrasonic generators like you. A-B comparing the sound with/without the Torus subs showed with they added presence and body as Adyc noted. Though fyi he has since re-positioned his S7's and brought them further out into the room, and now prefers the sound without the subs which is surprising. I'm looking forward to hearing his latest setup soon.
 
Adyc said:
I do not think it is too difficult to integrate subs into main speakers. I would only use sub for 30 Hz or below which many main speakers will start will roll off. Sub 20 Hz really improves presence and body. I only cross over my sub around 30 Hz and the improvement is substantial.

I do not believe M3 can go to 20 Hz flat. Add sub to M3 will help. Most of the other brands' top reference speakers are 4 towers and there are reasons for that.
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Adyc, I had the QSub 15's in mind, so I was thinking more in terms of space limitations...they are substantial beasts! But yes, Magico's DSP-controlled EQ offers plenty of options to integrated the subs into most listening rooms.

I agree the M3's would benefit from adding high end subs such as the QSub 15 or WB Torus Infrasonic generator. Similarly I think the S5 Mk2's would also benefit from the addition of QSub's...perhaps just a little less so than than the M3. In his review for Hifi Critic, MC noted the S5 Mk2's have exceptionally linear frequency response from about 24Hz to 35kHz, digging down to 20Hz in the sub-bass region. Though as you noted it is in the sub-20 Hz range where one can gain an improvement in presence and body.
 
How about S sub? The size is much more acceptable. Two 12" drivers per channel should be more than enough.
 
Adyc said:
How about S sub? The size is much more acceptable. Two 12" drivers per channel should be more than enough.
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The S subs are good, though if you look at their design, they look like a S Mk1 speaker, so i'd definitely wait until a Mk2 version arrives. That said, the QSub 15 is quite a bit better.
 
I have the Q1 and a single Wilson Benesch Torus which here in the UK cost £28.5k and £6.5k for a single unit with dedicated amplifier. By comparison the M3 costs £100k. Almost three times the price. Given the flexibility one gets with integration using a Devialet OdA amplifier (the same as the Expert Pro 1000) the M3 just does not stack up in the way it probably does in the USA particularly if used in a small UK room. Maybe when the M1 emerges ...
 
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