New speaker cables

Jerome W

Jerome W

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Hi folks,

I just received a 1 meter pair of 10 Gauge (2.59mm diameter) of Pure Silver Loudspeaker Cables ( Extra Soft Temper, in a PTFE (Teflon) Jacket ) from TempoElectric, NY. ( boss is a very nice man, Joseph Levy ).

I removed my 1 meter pair of WireWorld Silver Eclipse 6 and connected my Shindo CCQs to the Harbeth M40.1 with these new pure silver cables.

The result ???
Incredible improvement.
The sound is faster, more resolved, but the biggest improvement is in the tonal balance.
With the WW, the sound was a bit on the dark side, with somehow rolled off treble.
Now the sound is no more dark, and I do not get any excess of brilliance in the treble either. Just more alive highs, and a clearly faster presentation.

I know that pure silver cables are not for everyone. But if you need more "light" and life in the highs in your system, they do the trick perfectly. Along with superb resolution and details. And the stereo image seems wider and deepest than before.
It actually smokes my beloved WireWorld cables on my speakers.
Seems that Shindo and Harbeth do like Silver a lot.
Awesome !!
Bonus : don't need any termination. Can and should be used bared.


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Have you tried a23 or shindo cables yet? If not I would be interested to know why. They were designed specifically with shindo amps in mind.


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Interesting Jerome. Did you feel Shindo/Harbeth combo was a little rolled off?

I tried some Kimber all silver speaker cables this week. Absolutely fabulous build quality. Very flexible too. But, I found the sound a bit "tipped up" for my liking. Going to try the Kimber Select Hybrid speaker cable next.


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Read the reviews on some of their interconnects. The Aurum AG are very interesting.
How long did it take you to receive your speaker cables once you ordered them Jerome?

Cheers
 
Jerome W said:
Hi folks,

I just received a 1 meter pair of 10 Gauge (2.59mm diameter) of Pure Silver Loudspeaker Cables ( Extra Soft Temper, in a PTFE (Teflon) Jacket ) from TempoElectric, NY. ( boss is a very nice man, Joseph Levy ).

I removed my 1 meter pair of WireWorld Silver Eclipse 6 and connected my Shindo CCQs to the Harbeth M40.1 with these new pure silver cables.

The result ???
Incredible improvement.
The sound is faster, more resolved, but the biggest improvement is in the tonal balance.
With the WW, the sound was a bit on the dark side, with somehow rolled off treble.
Now the sound is no more dark, and I do not get any excess of brilliance in the treble either. Just more alive highs, and a clearly faster presentation.

I know that pure silver cables are not for everyone. But if you need more "light" and life in the highs in your system, they do the trick perfectly. Along with superb resolution and details. And the stereo image seems wider and deepest than before.
It actually smokes my beloved WireWorld cables on my speakers.
Seems that Shindo and Harbeth do like Silver a lot.
Awesome !!
Bonus : don't need any termination. Can and should be used bared.


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The Wire World being on the DARK side that is good for me a rolled off tremble AGAIN a good sign for ME i will look into the Wire World cables ( MERCI Jérome.) :yahoo1:
 
MrAcoustat said:
The Wire World being on the DARK side that is good for me a rolled off tremble AGAIN a good sign for ME i will look into the Wire World cables ( MERCI Jérome.) :yahoo1:
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So you are saying your system sounds bright and too much treble ???
 
Jerome... Congrats. Huge fan of pure silver. My only concern about bare wire is, longer term travelling oxidation. It happens quickly with silver if exposed..
 
Glad you are enjoying them so far. They will only get better with burn in and more use.
Makes sense they work, Shindo speaker cables are silver as well. Enjoy!
 
Jerome W said:
Hi folks,

I just received a 1 meter pair of 10 Gauge (2.59mm diameter) of Pure Silver Loudspeaker Cables ( Extra Soft Temper, in a PTFE (Teflon) Jacket ) from TempoElectric, NY. ( boss is a very nice man, Joseph Levy ).

I removed my 1 meter pair of WireWorld Silver Eclipse 6 and connected my Shindo CCQs to the Harbeth M40.1 with these new pure silver cables.

The result ???
Incredible improvement.
The sound is faster, more resolved, but the biggest improvement is in the tonal balance.
With the WW, the sound was a bit on the dark side, with somehow rolled off treble.
Now the sound is no more dark, and I do not get any excess of brilliance in the treble either. Just more alive highs, and a clearly faster presentation.

I know that pure silver cables are not for everyone. But if you need more "light" and life in the highs in your system, they do the trick perfectly. Along with superb resolution and details. And the stereo image seems wider and deepest than before.
It actually smokes my beloved WireWorld cables on my speakers.
Seems that Shindo and Harbeth do like Silver a lot.
Awesome !!
Bonus : don't need any termination. Can and should be used bared.


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Jerome, I will buy the cable as soon as I get a chance connecting my Cortese with my FC Petite Latour.

I'm very happy with the A23 cables I have, but would like to try a promising alternative to the copper.

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Cucumber_jones said:
Have you tried a23 or shindo cables yet? If not I would be interested to know why. They were designed specifically with shindo amps in mind.


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Chris,

This is the complete story :

I was about to pay for a set last year and finally changed my mind. At this time I was using Wilson WP8's and the sound with the CCQ's was very satisfying to me. So I thought " if it is not broken, why trying to fix it ? ".

Now with the 40.1, I wanted to try other cables than my WWSE6 because :
- although very satisfying, I had the feeling to have a balance tilted to the bass. Very weighty sound. But not as fast and agile compared to the little 225 ( who has less weight and texture ).
- treble as I said appeared to be slightly rolled off sometimes and pure silver is known to give the best treble extension

Since Shindo cables are made with pure silver, and considering my sonic needs, it was more logical to try pure silver cables ( Kimber was also an option but very expensive ) than the copper of A23.
Shindo cables : no dealer in Europe.


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Mike said:
Interesting Jerome. Did you feel Shindo/Harbeth combo was a little rolled off?

I tried some Kimber all silver speaker cables this week. Absolutely fabulous build quality. Very flexible too. But, I found the sound a bit "tipped up" for my liking. Going to try the Kimber Select Hybrid speaker cable next.


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Yes Mike. But I had the feeling that it could be cable related.
As I said, pure silver is not for all speakers and all rooms.


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Loop4fun said:
Jerome, I will by the cable as soon as I get a chance connecting my Cortese with my FC Petite Latour.

I'm very happy with the A23 cables I have, but would like to try A promising alternative to the copper.

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This will be interesting.
Shindo speaker cables are made of pure silver and most Shindo owners go to the A23 because Keith designed them for Shindo and the price is more affordable.
Actually, the price of Shindo speaker cables is so high that some owners of Shindo speakers do not use them.
Using an other brand of pure silver cable will not be the same as using the Shindo cables. ( this is said for diplomatic reasons mostly but I believe it too :D). But something tells me that the results will be better than with copper cables, A23 included. Once again, I have not experimented A23 cables. This is just a feeling. At least with pure silver cables, you will be using the same material as Shindo.


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Steve said:
Jerome... Congrats. Huge fan of pure silver. My only concern about bare wire is, longer term travelling oxidation. It happens quickly with silver if exposed..
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Oh...I did not think about that.
I thought the terminations of the Silver Eclipse line was pure silver and since they did not oxyde...
Anyway if oxydation appears I have a product for that in the kitchen which is very fast and easy to use.


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MrAcoustat said:
The Wire World being on the DARK side that is good for me a rolled off tremble AGAIN a good sign for ME i will look into the Wire World cables ( MERCI Jérome.) :yahoo1:
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André : try before you buy.

The WW is darker with Shindo. Probably not darker in general. I never found them dark on all my other speakers.
There could be just some kind of capacitance/impedance mismatch between the Wireworld and my Shindo amps.


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rszk said:
Read the reviews on some of their interconnects. The Aurum AG are very interesting.
How long did it take you to receive your speaker cables once you ordered them Jerome?

Cheers
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They were ready very quicly but I asked Joseph to wait until the 22 August for shipping them. And I received them the 28. Standard Economy Intl USPS. Not express.


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Jerome W said:
Oh...I did not think about that.
I thought the terminations of the Silver Eclipse line was pure silver and since they did not oxyde...
Anyway if oxydation appears I have a product for that in the kitchen which is very fast and easy to use.


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Jerome...Yes you can clean the bare wire ends, but unfortunately it travels up under the sheath longer term. 15 years ago, I was a bare wired man, now that tarnished wire is gone... :(

You can always terminate yourself with cable pants & say Furutech Flux connectors. They compliment silver nicely. Just ask Siltech! (no soldering required but use a spot of silicon before closing the barrel).
 
Definitely vote for pure silver speaker cable...I changed from cardas golden reference to audioquest ke4. ...is huge difference for sound stage and treble more details sweet....I love my audioquest ke4.
 
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