MQA Article

I said it after I heard it, I was very impressed with MQA. The naysayers can balk all they want....I know what I heard.

Next question: when is the Lampi MQA coming out? :audiophile:
 
Mike said:
I said it after I heard it, I was very impressed with MQA. The naysayers can balk all they want....I know what I heard.

Next question: when is the Lampi MQA coming out? :audiophile:
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More importantly, when are MQA files going to be released in quantity?
 
I'm about as 'anti-cynic' as they come. but so far MQA has been all 'dog and pony' show and lacking true objective listening feedback. and Bob Stuart and his ultra 'PCM' ness are about as low on the credibility scale as one can be. the linked article above has no detailed objective listening information that i could see by a quick scan. it could have been written by Meridian's marketing department. just some technobabble.

i did the 'marketing' demo at the Newport Show and every step of that demo was controlled by the demonstrator, so it had zero value as far as evidence of a real improvement in performance.

when i (or a listener i know) sees a file or disc they personally have get improved by MQA just once i'll sit up and start to pay attention. and if it simply is a more efficient delivery process for high rez then it has some value. I'm skeptical of real performance improvement......but hopeful that that really happens. it would be good news for all of us.

previous 'change the world' proclamations by Stuart have been wastes of time from my view. and i like Meridian gear; my first high end products were a Meridian 500 transport/563 dac back in the early 90's.
 
Mike Lavigne said:
I'm about as 'anti-cynic' as they come. but so far MQA has been all 'dog and pony' show and lacking true objective listening feedback. and Bob Stuart and his ultra 'PCM' ness are about as low on the credibility scale as one can be. the linked article above has no detailed objective listening information that i could see by a quick scan. it could have been written by Meridian's marketing department. just some technobabble.

i did the 'marketing' demo at the Newport Show and every step of that demo was controlled by the demonstrator, so it had zero value as far as evidence of a real improvement in performance.

when i (or a listener i know) sees a file or disc they personally have get improved by MQA just once i'll sit up and start to pay attention. and if it simply is a more efficient delivery process for high rez then it has some value. I'm skeptical of real performance improvement......but hopeful that that really happens. it would be good news for all of us.

previous 'change the world' proclamations by Stuart have been wastes of time from my view. and i like Meridian gear; my first high end products were a Meridian 500 transport/563 dac back in the early 90's.
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At the pace this is going, it seems like there is only one dog and one pony.
 
I have been frustrated by the slow roll-out of the product. The demo that I heard was a mixed bag but the handful of tracks that I was familiar with showed the product has potential. My wish would be for the record companies to concentrate on releasing MQA content for new music and then slowly go back to the SOS content we are already inundated with on HDTracks in hi-rez.
 
still-one said:
I have been frustrated by the slow roll-out of the product. The demo that I heard was a mixed bag but the handful of tracks that I was familiar with showed the product has potential. My wish would be for the record companies to concentrate on releasing MQA content for new music and then slowly go back to the SOS content we are already inundated with on HDTracks in hi-rez.
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If they roll out MQA with new content first, you will have zero basis for comparison.
 
still-one said:
I really don't need a basis for comparison. I want higher rez current content that has been Authenticated by the label.
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I'm not sure that anybody knows what "authenticated" really means. What if the tape is really old and the people who made it are tits up in the ground? Who is going to authenticate those tapes and say that is what they heard in the control room when the tapes were originally recorded? And when the old tapes were made compared to when they are played back now, how much of the original equipment still remains in the studio?
 
Then why would we buy any music at all, period. If it's better just bring it on, the faster the better!
 
still-one said:
I really don't need a basis for comparison. I want higher rez current content that has been Authenticated by the label.
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until you use known source recordings (of various native formats) and then run it through the MQA process in known systems any conclusions on the benefit is of little or no value. who is to say that MQA improves a new recording? improves it better than what? you have no reference.

a little light of day is required to know what is doing what.

at this point it's all smoke and mirrors.

no one is fighting the idea of wanting better sound. and having improved new recordings is certainly part of that. but there is a process of vetting that has to happen.

getting the pro audio guys to care more about sonic performance could result in better sounding new recordings, and MQA could get the credit. a lot of variables in why a new recording sounds like it does. so that issue is not where any proof of concept will come.
 
mep said:
I'm not sure that anybody knows what "authenticated" really means. What if the tape is really old and the people who made it are tits up in the ground? Who is going to authenticate those tapes and say that is what they heard in the control room when the tapes were originally recorded? And when the old tapes were made compared to when they are played back now, how much of the original equipment still remains in the studio?
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As I indicated in Post#8, my priority is not the music on those old tapes, so your question does not keep me awake at night.

If you want me to offer my guess as to how it will work, the content owner will authorize "someone" to sign off (Authenticate) that the sound of the master (tape, file, ??) played thru the studio monitors is the same (or close enough) as that of the what is heard thru the monitors when the MQA digital file is played thru the same monitors. Potential problems?? Of course.
 
still-one said:
As I indicated in Post#8, my priority is not the music on those old tapes, so your question does not keep me awake at night.

If you want me to offer my guess as to how it will work, the content owner will authorize "someone" to sign off (Authenticate) that the sound of the master (tape, file, ??) played thru the studio monitors is the same (or close enough) as that of the what is heard thru the monitors when the MQA digital file is played thru the same monitors. Potential problems?? Of course.
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Mike Lavigne said:
until you use known source recordings (of various native formats) and then run it through the MQA process in known systems any conclusions on the benefit is of little or no value. who is to say that MQA improves a new recording? improves it better than what? you have no reference.

a little light of day is required to know what is doing what.

at this point it's all smoke and mirrors.

no one is fighting the idea of wanting better sound. and having improved new recordings is certainly part of that. but there is a process of vetting that has to happen.

getting the pro audio guys to care more about sonic performance could result in better sounding new recordings, and MQA could get the credit. a lot of variables in why a new recording sounds like it does. so that issue is not where any proof of concept will come.
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From day one you have closed your mind to the entire MQA process. With your logic safety features in vehicles haven't saved lives, drivers are more aware and become betters drivers.
 
still-one said:
From day one you have closed your mind to the entire MQA process. With your logic safety features in vehicles haven't saved lives, drivers are more aware and become betters drivers.
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There is not a semblance of reality in your analogy. I agree with MikeL 100%. Until we get a chance to compare music that we think was very well recorded and compare it to the MQA version, the jury will be out.
 
still-one said:
From day one you have closed your mind to the entire MQA process. With your logic safety features in vehicles haven't saved lives, drivers are more aware and become betters drivers.
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at the Newport Show I spent 30 minutes waiting in line for the MQA demo, then 35 minutes listening to a marketing talk and closed system playing music.

why did I do that?

I'm likely the poster boy for listening and believing what I hear. to a fault according to many. I want to hear what it can do. but someone telling me what is happening proves nothing.

I just want to hear it for myself in an environment where I know what is what for myself.

I've spent the last 20 years aggressively comparing formats at the highest performance levels. I have a lot invested and it matters to me. so a breakthrough is important. or it not being a breakthrough is also important.

and Bob Stuart being involved does cause me to give it a major 'smell' test.

so far no go. or rather, move along, nothing here to see.
 
mep said:
There is not a semblance of reality in your analogy. I agree with MikeL 100%. Until we get a chance to compare music that we think was very well recorded and compare it to the MQA version, the jury will be out.
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My analogy holds up nicely. You can disagree all you wish. I have no intent on getting into a 1000 post WBF type exchange when positions will never change.

I have never stated that MQA's benefits should be accepted without question. My posts after hearing the demo indicated I was not overwhelmed, Yet, on several very familiar tracks (Dylan, Franklin, Flack) there was no doubt these were the best, or at least very different from any version I had ever heard. I will let someone else worry if there is a version I may have missed by these artists.
 
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