If you haven’t heard it, you have no opinion

Mike

Mike

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I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve read online how someone thinks something sounds or worse people who didn’t attend a particular show, but seemingly know everything about it, each room and what the problems were.

If people attend, they may disagree - that’s normal. But if you didn’t attend, you have no opinion and one brand isn’t the proverbial holy grail for all rooms at a show.

Be careful of brand ambassadors that think their favorite brand is the cure all.

Rant over.



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This mindset would shut most other forums down and why I read most posts here.

We get real world experience and reviews of items members have heard or owned.

I trust what I learn here more than most other comments or reviews elsewhere.
 
Mike said:
I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve read online how someone thinks something sounds or worse people who didn’t attend a particular show, but seemingly know everything about it, each room and what the problems were.

If people attend, they may disagree - that’s normal. But if you didn’t attend, you have no opinion and one brand isn’t the proverbial holy grail for all rooms at a show.

Be careful of brand ambassadors that think their favorite brand is the cure all.

Rant over.



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Agreed. Perhaps some folks just like to hear themselves talk? I’ve personally never relied on the magazine reviews to select my gear nor paid too much attention to the opinions of the masses but have relied on the ears of experienced and serious audiophiles who I was certain would offer me an unbiased opinion and have not been disappointed, on few occasions.

Otherwise We might as well give opinions on wine and violins while being blindfolded ;)
 
The trouble is that people who go to shows claim to have heard everything.

I would extend one of your rules to say that hearing one speaker in a multi-model lineup a few years ago, doesn't qualify you to discuss the sound of a brand new model sound unheard.
 
Mike said:
I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve read online how someone thinks something sounds or worse people who didn’t attend a particular show, but seemingly know everything about it, each room and what the problems were.

If people attend, they may disagree - that’s normal. But if you didn’t attend, you have no opinion and one brand isn’t the proverbial holy grail for all rooms at a show.

Be careful of brand ambassadors that think their favorite brand is the cure all.

Rant over.



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And then there are those who go to shows and then opine how a particular brand always sounds bad and thus sucks. I am thinking in particular of those folks who have heard Magico bright, thin and sterile sounding and then think this is the sound of the brand. On another forum I try to tell some know-it-alls with self-proclaimed expert 'authority' that it doesn't matter if you have heard Magico 20 times under suboptimal conditions -- if you haven't once heard Magico under optimal conditions you might as well not have heard it, even if you have encountered "the sound" 20 times. I have heard Magico in friends' optimized systems countless times, and the sound is natural, full and dynamic.

Shows suck.

Rant over.


PS: I have no stake in the Magico controversy since I don't own speakers of the brand and don't plan to do so. But I cannot be silent about what I hear.
 
Al M. said:
And then there are those who go to shows and then opine how a particular brand always sounds bad and thus sucks. I am thinking in particular of those folks who have heard Magico bright, thin and sterile sounding and then think this is the sound of the brand. On another forum I try to tell some know-it-alls with self-proclaimed expert 'authority' that it doesn't matter if you have heard Magico 20 times under suboptimal conditions -- if you haven't once heard Magico once under optimal conditions you might as well not have heard it, even if you have encountered "the sound" 20 times. I have heard Magico in friends' optimized systems countless times, and the sound is natural, full and dynamic.

Shows suck.

Rant over.


PS: I have no stake in the Magico controversy since I don't own speakers of the brand and don't plan to do so. But I cannot be silent about what I hear.
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I agree. It's fine if someone attends the show and says "I didn't care for room 355". Someone else may have loved that room. It's all fine. My issue is when some clown (and probably a paid brand ambassador) that never attended a show thinks his fan boy brand is the panacea for every room at the show.

Better yet, I love the guys who can hear that 354hz suck out. Man, you have to have good ears for that. LOL. NOT!
 
There's a dealer on another forum who will tell you exactly how any combination of audio gear will sound. Naturally, the brands he carries are better.

It's interesting that he views equipment as having essentially chaotic "synergies" that can "make the magic happen", but when he tells you how your system sounds he essentially acts like different amps and cables behave like predictable tone controls. I think these are mutually exclusive views.
 
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Mike said:
I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve read online how someone thinks something sounds or worse people who didn’t attend a particular show, but seemingly know everything about it, each room and what the problems were.

If people attend, they may disagree - that’s normal. But if you didn’t attend, you have no opinion and one brand isn’t the proverbial holy grail for all rooms at a show.

Be careful of brand ambassadors that think their favorite brand is the cure all.

Rant over.


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Mike, can I have what you’re having? [emoji41]

But seriously, this has been a nuisance at times. Good to see it’s been addressed.


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“There's a dealer on another forum who will tell you exactly how any combination of audio gear will sound. Naturally, the brands he carries are better.“

Yup. I usually manage to ignore him, but last night he jumped into a thread for no reason at all to dispute someone else’s experiences, other than to pimp one of his brands. I got annoyed, called it spam, and of course he posted some lengthy nonsense about how he is the only person who knows how to compare gear, the magazines are all terrible, blah blah blah. And I woke up today to find my post was yanked.
 
Worst is the guy who probably didn’t even watch a YouTube video, but knows his favorite electronics will save the day for every room at every show, no matter what.
 
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