Entreq Ground Boxes & Cables

Mike

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I've always been intrigued after several readings and user reports on the Entreq Ground Boxes, Cables and Associated tweaks.

As a Stillpoints dealer, the Entreq products are distributed by Stillpoints USA (so easy for me to get and try).

Would love to hear from our members on their experiences with Entreq products.

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Entreq Ground Boxes & Cables

Hi Mike,

First time post. Glad to be a part of this forum.

I had the opportunity to audition several Entreq products including the Atlantis/Silver Tellus boxes for my front end (preamp/phono, DAC, SUT) and the Poseidon box for my mono amps as well as a number of associated Atlantis/Apollo cables. Together with Furutech's NCF power cord connectors, wall plates/outlets, and a Shunyata Denali conditioner, the Entreq components helped raise my system's sound quality to a new and higher level: more open, greater scale, and a more natural ease with better dynamics.
Based on the results of the audition, I decided to purchase the Entreq boxes and cables, and am looking at other options within their line.

Would definitely recommend auditioning the Entreq products to see if they make a positive and cost effective difference in your system.


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Hi Carlos - thanks for joining. Appreciate the feedback on the Entreq. Always great to chat with you on the phone!


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I have a client that swears by his Entreq Grounding Box. The plan is to hopefully get his to try out next time he is out of town. Out of town cause he says he can't live without it!
 
Hmmm...this is in line with my research. I'll call my rep this week and bring a few in to try.


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I have only read good things about it over different forums and have been meaning to try one of these...Anyone compared the Synergistic research grounding box to the Entreq ?
 
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Jaws said:
Hi

Before you buy anything from that company, i would advise you to check this link:

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?16735-Entreq-USB-Cable-Exposed

Bo
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Well that was a waste of 10 minutes. I read through the entire thread to find that everyone criticized a cable no one had ever tried, no one had even held in their hands, inspected or actually knew anything about. They through around all kinds of insults and nonsense, while trashing a company, again, no one knew anything about or had ever tried their products to only find out in the end, they were all wrong (typical) and the thread title changed and the thread closed.

Since the time of that thread, there have been many who have actually tried their products, LOVED THEM, including some in that thread:

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?11995-Entreq-Tellus-grounding/page197


What I learned in talking to the distributor is that you must start with grounding on the speakers, then preamp, then if you still want to try further, sources and power. But speakers and preamp yield the biggest change at the start.

We shall see...
 
I have read the danish thread.
This guy bought a Entreq Challenger 2010 USB cable for more than 500 dollars.
He had a lot of trouble with noise and unstability, so he loaned it out to another guy from the danish forum. He experienced the same problems, so they removed the sock to see if it was a loose connection, but found out i was a 1 dollar usb printer cable with a ground plug soldert to the shield.
Entreq sells this cable as their own creation and own production, and it turns out to be a 1 dollar printer cable with a sock on.
In my book its not OK to sell crap like that as a high-end cable, and yes maybe this was a one-timer. Lets hope so...

Bo
 
Jaws said:
I have read the danish thread.
This guy bought a Entreq Challenger 2010 USB cable for more than 500 dollars.
He had a lot of trouble with noise and unstability, so he loaned it out to another guy from the danish forum. He experienced the same problems, so they removed the sock to see if it was a loose connection, but found out i was a 1 dollar usb printer cable with a ground plug soldert to the shield.
Entreq sells this cable as their own creation and own production, and it turns out to be a 1 dollar printer cable with a sock on.
In my book its not OK to sell crap like that as a high-end cable, and yes maybe this was a one-timer. Lets hope so...

Bo
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They went through this on that thread found out that was incorrect. ANYWAY, Entreq has many loyal followers and USB is the last step in the chain for grounding. Their fundamental approach is grounding at the amp and preamp level. Anything else (like USB) is extra and from what I could gather, not where to invest your money first.

Again...we shall see. Horns and SET amps will be a good test.


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Rhapsody has been selling Entreq products for over a year. I have them connected to every piece of equipment in my demo system(s). Anyone that has bought the products still uses them and loves them.

I think that the products are system and component dependent, even the Entreq cables are as such. Sometimes the less expensive cable can sound better (to someone, not to everyone) than the more expensive cables. Advice is to try it out and your system.

Walt, Bruce and John are EXCELLENT to work with and will always help out if you need to try an Entreq OR Stillpoint product in your system. Highly recommended.
 
I have tried the Entreq grounding products at various points in the big system. I have found my system is better without it. But, I run everything balanced and my electrical system in my listening room was very well planned. In a single ended system or high efficiency one like Mike runs, could be a very different result.
 
annapolis Raider said:
I have tried the Entreq grounding products at various points in the big system. I have found my system is better without it. But, I run everything balanced and my electrical system in my listening room was very well planned. In a single ended system or high efficiency one like Mike runs, could be a very different result.
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Just to make sure Annapolis Raider, you know that the Entreq grounding products have nothing to do with electrical ground, right? Signal ground is different thing all together. Not saying it should work in your system of course, as you have tried it, but for anyone reading this, just want to make sure that folks don't think that even if you have great electrical grounding in your system that the Entreq products "could or could not" still have an effect on the sound.
 
Rhapsody said:
Just to make sure Annapolis Raider, you know that the Entreq grounding products have nothing to do with electrical ground, right? Signal ground is different thing all together. Not saying it should work in your system of course, as you have tried it, but for anyone reading this, just want to make sure that folks don't think that even if you have great electrical grounding in your system that the Entreq products "could or could not" still have an effect on the sound.
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Duh...
 
annapolis Raider said:
Duh...
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Sorry, there was no malicious intent, I just have talked to so many people that are not familiar with Entreq and they hear the word grounding and think the Entreq grounding is the same as electrical grounding. Again, I apologize if it was taken the wrong way.
 
I tried a Silver Tellus, Apollo RCA to Spade and Copper USB to Spade in my system.

There was no improvement.

I didn't try it on my speaker's negative terminals, since that requires separate grounding boxes or the Poseidon which has three totally independent boxes in one enclosure.

For a lot less money, I'm using the SPEC PSP-901EX "Real-Sound Processor" on my speakers with excellent results.
 
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According to my rep, the key is to connect to the amp (not speaker) negative terminals. That's 90% of the benefit and must be done first.

But as I said....we shall see. Anxious to try it.


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Mike said:
According to my rep, the key is to connect to the amp (not speaker) negative terminals. That's 90% of the benefit and must be done first.

But as I said....we shall see. Anxious to try it.

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That still requires separate grounding boxes or the Poseidon, or you risk blowing up you amp(s).

From the Stillpoints website:

"Both the Silver Minimus and the Olympus Minimus can also be used in pairs to ground the negative speaker terminal of an amplifier. These results are quite amazing! Caution and care must be taken with this application. You must use one Ground box and one ground cable per channel! Never use a single ground box to connect both channels. You will likely damage your amplifier."
 
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mauidan said:
That still requires separate grounding boxes or the Poseidon, or you risk blowing up you amp(s).

From the Stillpoints website:

"Both the Silver Minimus and the Olympus Minimus can also be used in pairs to ground the negative speaker terminal of an amplifier. These results are quite amazing! Caution and care must be taken with this application. You must use one Ground box and one ground cable per channel! Never use a single ground box to connect both channels. You will likely damage your amplifier."
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Yup! Agreed. I went with the Poseidon. The amps/preamp grounding makes sense to me.


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