Devialet Phantom in the house

Mike

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I have two Silver Phantom's and the Dialog, but just hooked one up tonight.


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I'm completely fascinated by the Phantom. I want to own one. When the company stock goes public on the Paris Exchange, I am going to buy as much as I can afford.
 
I'm completely fascinated by the Phantom. I want to own one. When the company stock goes public on the Paris Exchange, I am going to buy as much as I can afford.

If you lived closer, I have one you could borrow. I have to admit, it sound pretty darn good. The bass is excellent for such a small box. It's perfect in our kitchen and the kids control it with their iPod's. It's been a hit with the family.
 
I was surprised how good they are in context of a lifestyle system. Nobody's going to be replacing their $$ main speakers with these but they are pretty cool and sound better than I would have thought. The demo at RMAF was more successful/convincing vs the Kii3 for sure. The bass drivers have A LOT of excursion, it looks like they are going to take off and start flying around the room. :)
 
I was surprised how good they are in context of a lifestyle system. Nobody's going to be replacing their $$ main speakers with these but they are pretty cool and sound better than I would have thought. The demo at RMAF was more successful/convincing vs the Kii3 for sure. The bass drivers have A LOT of excursion, it looks like they are going to take off and start flying around the room. :)

Great post. You summed it up perfectly.


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"Self amplified speakers have been shunned by Audiophiles for years – and perhaps part of the reason is few have been built very well. Look at the latest travesty, these new Devialet abominations. Anyone that’s had a serious listen would find them dreadful."

http://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/using-twins/
 
I think there is some confusion. These aren't intended to replace an audiophile system. They are intended as the bridge between someone going from a Bose to a nice little entry level audiophile system (say a Devialet 120 and a pair of bookshelf speakers). ALL of the calls I've received about the Phantom have started out the same way "I have a Bose now and I'm curious about the Phantom." That's not a slight - just a fact.

Audiophiles expecting the little Phantom to be more than a bridge between a Bose and a entry level system are incorrect.

The one in our kitchen replaced my wife's Panasonic radio she had beside the sink. My Father in Law likes it because it plays louder than his Bose WaveRadio and that's what he wants for his cottage.

Paul's post above continues..."Meridian has made self amplified speakers for years, yet there are none I would ever consider owning.

The truth is, 99.9% of all loudspeakers are not self amplified – and thus, this series focuses more on the practical than theoretical."

Interesting comments for sure.

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If I was looking to upgrade from a Bose WaveRadio, I'd get these:

http://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/speaker-systems/network_powered_speaker/nx-n500

They're only $799./pair.

Trust me, with those specs, they won't sound as good as the Phantom's - especially the bass. The Phantom has good bass for what it is.

Dan - let me know after you've actually heard one what you think. Keep it in context of "a guy with a Bose", not "replacing my Wilson XLF's!" LOL.

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Trust me, with those specs, they won't sound as good as the Phantom's - especially the bass. The Phantom has good bass for what it is.

Dan - let me know after you've actually heard one what you think. Keep it in context of "a guy with a Bose", not "replacing my Wilson XLF's!" LOL.

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"From crunching hard rock to deep bass to delicate female vocals, the NX-N500 reproduces them all very well."

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/666-yamaha-nx-n500-network-powered-speaker-review/
 
LOL. Ok. I'll have to hear a pair.

Can you daisy chain several together? Do they have a wifi app?

I'm wondering to myself whether someone could use 5 phantoms in a home theater setting. Hmmm...don't know.


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I think there is some confusion. These aren't intended to replace an audiophile system. They are intended as the bridge between someone going from a Bose to a nice little entry level audiophile system (say a Devialet 120 and a pair of bookshelf speakers). ALL of the calls I've received about the Phantom have started out the same way "I have a Bose now and I'm curious about the Phantom." That's not a slight - just a fact.

Audiophiles expecting the little Phantom to be more than a bridge between a Bose and a entry level system are incorrect.

The one in our kitchen replaced my wife's Panasonic radio she had beside the sink. My Father in Law likes it because it plays louder than his Bose WaveRadio and that's what he wants for his cottage.

Paul's post above continues..."Meridian has made self amplified speakers for years, yet there are none I would ever consider owning.

The truth is, 99.9% of all loudspeakers are not self amplified – and thus, this series focuses more on the practical than theoretical."

Interesting comments for sure.

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The Phantom is a bit more than that. String up 10 of these on the walls of a Club/Disco with a Dialog/NAS and a iPad and you are Golden. No need for any fancy technical support. Your club will be rocking.

Get a pair for a party and even the most drunk guests can't blow out your speakers…unless they spill the drinks..
 
LOL. Ok. I'll have to hear a pair.

Can you daisy chain several together? Do they have a wifi app?

I'm wondering to myself whether someone could use 5 phantoms in a home theater setting. Hmmm...don't know.


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Yes, the Phantoms have some kinda artificial intelligence and can adjust automtically to serverl operating modes. They can sense each other thru Dialog and adapt (hive mind). They have a bit of the BORG in them.
 
Dan, I think the Silver Phantoms will destroy the Yamahas in terms of overall big sound. They will plumb deep bass to say the mid 20hz and are limited to 105db, as that is the European club limit for loudness.The Phantoms do rock and the SQ is NOT sucky. Mids and high are decent. The Bass thumps, as its an air pusher type…not vibration propogation as "proper" bass…which would require far bigger woofers.

Fun speakers.
 
"Self amplified speakers have been shunned by Audiophiles for years – and perhaps part of the reason is few have been built very well. Look at the latest travesty, these new Devialet abominations. Anyone that’s had a serious listen would find them dreadful."

http://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/using-twins/

I am pretty certain the folks over at ATC, Genelec , Focal Pro, Dynaudio Pro and others would take great exception to sweeping statements like that ... as well they should.
 
I am pretty certain the folks over at ATC, Genelec , Focal Pro, Dynaudio Pro and others would take great exception to sweeping statements like that ... as well they should.

And I am certain that McGowan has absolutely no axe to grind in this particular race ..........

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"A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services."
 
Dan, I think the Silver Phantoms will destry the Yamahas in terms of overall big sound. They will plumb deep bass to say the mid 20hz and are limited to 105db, as that is the European club limit for loudness.The Phantoms do rock and the SQ is NOT sucky. Mids and high are decent. the Bass rocks as its an air pucher type…not vibration propogation as "proper" bass…which would require far bigger woofers.

Fun speakers.

Norman,
I would hope that a $4790. pair of Silver Phantoms would sound better than the $799. Yamahas.

I doubt many
Bose Wave Radio owners are going to upgrade to the Phantom.

If I already had a Network DAC with a volume control, I get a pair of Event Opal monitors.
 
Point taken, but they are less than $4k here and look cooler than the competition...
 
It's going to be interesting to see how the Phantom does in the market. It's definitely in that "new product" type category and quite unique. Where will it ultimately fit in? Is it too expensive to be a Bose replacement? Does it have a fit in the small home theater category? What about setting up the proverbial disco/dance idea Norman mentioned?

The product is no threat to the guy with the Devialet 400 and a pair of big speakers, but it is a pretty cool new product and I'm stunned at the bass out of this thing.


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