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Looking for speakers and ? to put on my desk each side of my computer monitor.
Powered speakers hooked up to a pc sound card is the obvious starting point, I suppose.
Any suggestions on small speakers, or electronics that would better?
$1500 or so?
 
I don't have them on my desktop...as they're a little big for that; but I'm very happy with my KEF X-300A. You could go right from the PC, to USB in; and they sound fabulous.

Well within your budget, at $800 list.
 
I have a new pair of black kef x300a speakers I bought from echo audio (I think they pulled them out of box once to demo them). These are the wireless version. I have never used them. They are sitting in their box in my closet if someone wants to buy them. The desktop speaker I would recommend (I use in two different offices) is the Audience 1+1. Amazing desktop speaker. I built custom stands filled with sand to match.
 
Looking for speakers and ? to put on my desk each side of my computer monitor.
Powered speakers hooked up to a pc sound card is the obvious starting point, I suppose.
Any suggestions on small speakers, or electronics that would better?
$1500 or so?

No contest IMO. If you can get the setup as recommended and have the space , the Mini Maggie system is hands down the best desktop audio system I have ever heard (have one). You'll need some air behind the speakers (not banged up against a front wall) , hopefully an enclosed foot-rest/kick panel underneath for the Woofer panel and an amp with decent behaviour down to 2ohms . If you can handle that - it's an astonishing speaker. If these are constraints, the HRT Stage system is outstanding too. Don't be fooled by the price - read Roy Gregory's review. Unbelievable

Shodhan
 
I have a new pair of black kef x300a speakers I bought from echo audio (I think they pulled them out of box once to demo them). These are the wireless version. I have never used them. They are sitting in their box in my closet if someone wants to buy them. The desktop speaker I would recommend (I use in two different offices) is the Audience 1+1. Amazing desktop speaker. I built custom stands filled with sand to match.

I thought the Clairaudient The One was the recommended desktop solution, the 1+1 being more compatible on stands and well out in the room because of the amount of bass energy generated by that rear firing driver? But a good choice nevertheless.

Shodhan
 
Before any of us can give you informed advice, we'll first need to know the following...

1. What kind of music will you be listening to?

2. Is it going to be strictly lossless and high-res, or will you also be listening to mp3's?

3. What other media will you be listening to? Gaming? Movies?

4. Do you have any idea what kinda sound it is that you like? IE: Some people want a warm system, some want a very dynamic system, some want lots of bass, while others don't really care...

5. How much space are you working with? Will the speakers be placed very near or directly against a wall ? Will they be placed on top of your desk (next to the monitor), or will they be placed elsewhere?

Alright - that should give us enough to go by!
 
+1

They are amazingly good

No contest IMO. If you can get the setup as recommended and have the space , the Mini Maggie system is hands down the best desktop audio system I have ever heard (have one). You'll need some air behind the speakers (not banged up against a front wall) , hopefully an enclosed foot-rest/kick panel underneath for the Woofer panel and an amp with decent behaviour down to 2ohms . If you can handle that - it's an astonishing speaker. If these are constraints, the HRT Stage system is outstanding too. Don't be fooled by the price - read Roy Gregory's review. Unbelievable

Shodhan
 
Before any of us can give you informed advice, we'll first need to know the following...

1. What kind of music will you be listening to?

2. Is it going to be strictly lossless and high-res, or will you also be listening to mp3's?

3. What other media will you be listening to? Gaming? Movies?

4. Do you have any idea what kinda sound it is that you like? IE: Some people want a warm system, some want a very dynamic system, some want lots of bass, while others don't really care...

5. How much space are you working with? Will the speakers be placed very near or directly against a wall ? Will they be placed on top of your desk (next to the monitor), or will they be placed elsewhere?

Alright - that should give us enough to go by!

Classical to a large degree, and pop music.
Music only, CD or better rez typically.
Preferably sitting on a desk utilizing the pc in a 14x20 room. I'm resisting the urge for a separate system. No wall near the speakers.

Reading about the KEFs, I saw: "They can be directly connected to computers or airport express. They do not support airplay." Is this saying I can feed them from my pc- iTunes maybe, wireless? Which would mean, having them in the room and operating as if connected to pc, but sitting on stands10' away?
 
Classical to a large degree, and pop music.
Music only, CD or better rez typically.
Preferably sitting on a desk utilizing the pc in a 14x20 room. I'm resisting the urge for a separate system. No wall near the speakers.

Reading about the KEFs, I saw: "They can be directly connected to computers or airport express. They do not support airplay." Is this saying I can feed them from my pc- iTunes maybe, wireless? Which would mean, having them in the room and operating as if connected to pc, but sitting on stands10' away?

I can't speak to the wireless version; but the wired version, you connect to the PC via USB...and just play from the PC (TIDAL, Spotify, Pandora, your own files, etc.)
 
I thought the Clairaudient The One was the recommended desktop solution, the 1+1 being more compatible on stands and well out in the room because of the amount of bass energy generated by that rear firing driver? But a good choice nevertheless.

Shodhan

I tried both. Sold the Ones. Bought two pairs of 1+1s. They are fuller range - I have them just below ear level and 1 foot from wall.
 
Smile,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. So here's the deal - as I see it at least:

Before we begin to discuss hardware, let's talk about software. The bottom line is that if you want to get great sound out of your PC, you're gunna have to optimize it for audio playback. This usually means combing through the operating system and disabling all of the functions that you neither use or need. Once you've done that, it's then all about selecting the best sounding software that you can find.

If you're running Windows, I'd recommend JRiver Media Player. It's the best sounding software around for Windows (in my opinion), plus, it's very easy to use. Unfortunately, it also costs money. If you'd like to try something free, then I'd use Foobar2K in place of JRiver. Foobar isn't as pretty, but it still performs quite well. No matter what you get, I'd recommend that you also download a piece of software called Fidelizer. This FREE software helps to optimize your OS for serious music listening. You'll need to run it in conjunction with whatever media player you end up using.

If you're running an Apple OS, then I'd recommend Amarra. It's expensive, buggy as all get out, and the user interface isn't terribly well thought-out, but it's the only music playback software for Apple that doesn't suck (in my opinion).

Alright, so now let's talk about hardware.

The Maggie recommendation is a good one, but there are a couple issues with this approach. The first is the price. The Maggie Mini system costs $1500. You're still going to need to buy the components to go with those speakers. Throw in a DAC and an integrated amp that's capable of safely driving these speakers, and you're going to be well above the $2000 range. Beyond budgetary issues, it's worth noting that these speakers were not designed to fill a 14x20 space with a whole lot of sound. They were built for near-field listening. Also, I'm not sure if mini-planars and pop music is a combination that'll work out well.

So with that being said, let's look at some other choices.

Earlier this year, I assembled an affordable desktop rig setup that kicked butt for the $$$. I ended up using an iFi DAC ($300), a Quinpu A6000 MK II integrated amp ($250), and a pair of Dali Zensor 1's ($500). For a 14x20 room, I'd step it up to the Zensor 3's. Anyway, this is an example of a carefully constructed two-channel rig that delivers performance that is way beyond it's individual parts. This setup was chalk full of speed, tone, and dynamics. Given your budget, if you went this route, you'd still have enough money left over to anchor this system with a decent sub.

Anyway, the truth is that the choices are damn near endless. In a way, it's good to have options. Yet by the same token, having such a huge palette of choices can be quite annoying. This is why I asked if you had an idea as to what kinda sound you're looking for. If you do, that'll help us to give you a direction. Anyway, for what it's worth, I prefer desktop systems that gravitate towards the smooth side of the aural spectrum. Why? Because most computers sound ridiculously digital to my ears. And by digital, I mean harsh and unnatural sounding. So given my bias, I tend to build PC rigs that strike a balance between transparency and musicality. I don't want something that's *too* colored, but I sure as hell don't want something that's too revealing either. Not when it comes to PC listening, at least.

Alright, I suppose I'll draw this incredibly long winded and somewhat incoherent post to a close. Hopefully there's something that you'll find useful within this huge pile of text. Oh, and before I forget.. if you end up buying a pair of bookshelf speakers, please don't set them directly on top of your desk. Buy some mini-stands, or make your own. It's all about controlling resonance. :D Good luck!
 
The KEFs are pretty nice, I've heard them.
I would also check out Vantoo Vanatoo | Vanatoo I've heard these too and they will blow your mind. I almost bought a pair, but I have no use.
One other thing: Please do yourself a favor and get an outboard dac to put between whatever speakers you choose and the PC sound card. Otherwise all you will be hearing is noise drowning out the music. I would trust a Schiit Modi2 for that task for example. Nice and economical, but not not economy class performance.
A good setup for the desk won't run anywhere near $1500. It can run there or much more if you want it to, but no need to.

Also I agree with Zero about resonance. Desks can be cannons of resonance. No, pads and such won't help with that unfortunately. Depending on the space you can get monitor stands for a song. The goal is getting the speakers off the desk.
I use a pair of On-Stage stands which are very good and I got them for about $10 each on sale. I forgot where I got them though.
 
I have a new pair of black kef x300a speakers I bought from echo audio (I think they pulled them out of box once to demo them). These are the wireless version. I have never used them. They are sitting in their box in my closet if someone wants to buy them. The desktop speaker I would recommend (I use in two different offices) is the Audience 1+1. Amazing desktop speaker. I built custom stands filled with sand to match.

The Audience One and 1+1 are not powered so require an amp, correct?
Are you using them with a pc?
The KEFs are (too) big for my desktop, but I'm working hard to rationalize them! One angle is, if the wireless can be run off my pc, if desktop doesn't work I'll stick them on stands in the back of the room.
You say your black KEFs are wireless; do they have an Ethernet port? (Reading their site it appears to me wireless is now only in white.)
 
Thanks for the broad response. I am trying to get good pc desktop sound- utilizing my work pc, and am fighting to avoid a separate system and search for the Holy Grail in this room, but scope creep is always a risk in this hobby, isn't it. (Last fall I was looking for a better speaker in the $5k neighborhood and now have Magico S-5s and Devialet 200 :dry:.) Your thoughts may apply to my main system as I primarily want to play data files off a HD- no analog.
 
The KEFs are pretty nice, I've heard them.
I would also check out Vantoo Vanatoo | Vanatoo I've heard these too and they will blow your mind. I almost bought a pair, but I have no use.
One other thing: Please do yourself a favor and get an outboard dac to put between whatever speakers you choose and the PC sound card. Otherwise all you will be hearing is noise drowning out the music. I would trust a Schiit Modi2 for that task for example. Nice and economical, but not not economy class performance.
A good setup for the desk won't run anywhere near $1500. It can run there or much more if you want it to, but no need to.

Also I agree with Zero about resonance. Desks can be cannons of resonance. No, pads and such won't help with that unfortunately. Depending on the space you can get monitor stands for a song. The goal is getting the speakers off the desk.
I use a pair of On-Stage stands which are very good and I got them for about $10 each on sale. I forgot where I got them though.

+1 on the need for stands . These might be overkill for your budget But I love the Ardan stands - that's what I use. And another shout out for the HRT Stage - at $700 they outperform everything else IMO up to $2500, except the Mini Maggies (which are not self-powered so you'll need a stout amp)
 
The Audience One and 1+1 are not powered so require an amp, correct?
Are you using them with a pc?
The KEFs are (too) big for my desktop, but I'm working hard to rationalize them! One angle is, if the wireless can be run off my pc, if desktop doesn't work I'll stick them on stands in the back of the room.
You say your black KEFs are wireless; do they have an Ethernet port? (Reading their site it appears to me wireless is now only in white.)

I feel foolish - I don't even know what I own! They are Dynaudio XEO-3 wireless speakers. Sorry
 
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