Chi Fi??

I was just comparing Nordost cables from the Cable Company site and all the connectors on Ali cables are different. Quite possible the wire is the same tho. Prices are insanely cheap.
 
My only Chinese audio equipment was Quad ESL 2805s. Both speakers failed and there were no replacement panels available in the USA and no current distributor.

Now, with some exceptions (server, tubes, and internal parts), all my equipment in both systems is made in the USA. I cringe when I am forced to buy anything made in China because there are no good options.
 
The thread is ChiFi. Obviously the amps from there are not Dartzeel. They come in a variety of prices. Pick the quality level of parts you want. They talk about taking a real NHB 108 apart and copying the unit. I have read some Audiogon Forum people talk highly of them. But that is usually a person use to Schiit quality goods. Not someone that owns a Luxman MU900 or real Dartzeel.
 
There are some cable brands which are manufactured in China, so the branded cables sold on AliExpress and the like may be from the same production line. Nordost cables are manufactured in their own factory in the US, so any "Nordost" cables sold on those sites are nothing but replicas. They are only made to look similar to the authentic product but are simply knock offs not built to the same specifications. Of course you may find some that sound good, but don't fool yourself into believing that you're getting an authentic product for a fraction of the price. It's similar to the replica watch market, buyer beware applies.
 
Dizzie said:
Now, with some exceptions (server, tubes, and internal parts), all my equipment in both systems is made in the USA. I cringe when I am forced to buy anything made in China because there are no good options.
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That is simply not true. Lumin develops, engineers and manufactures products of superb quality and fuctionality. As does Eversolo, and when they were in the market, so did Oppo. My guess is many folks here still have and use Oppo Blu-Ray players. Dussun and Opera Audio makes excellent amplifiers and, Opera also makes very well-engineered turntables and tonearms. Well-Tempered has it's turntables manufactured in China.

I've mentioned this point multiple times, but quality is the result of HOW products are made, not WHERE. Just look at the absolute crap automobiles produced by the American Big 3 auto industry in the 70's and 80's. There are sound reasons why Toyota and Honda entered the American auto market and took significant market share from the Big 3. Because they manufactured high-quality products for customers that provided Value*, and that worked and didn't break. Imagine that.

I've worked directly with PhD-level scientists from China as well as Korea and Asia, and they are amongst the best scientists I have ever worked with. And, unlike many American scientists I've also worked with, the Asian scientists don't f*ck around...they just get on with the job. And then, execute at a VERY high level. What I found in my professional career working in Science & Technology for 42 years was the best scientists & engineers I ever worked with were Asian, Dutch, or Danish.

*-Value=Quality/Price
 
Not about audio, havenÂ’t seen there any audio store. A month ago I visited China for a 2 weeks tour and it is absolutely worth it to do. Took a trip from Beijing, the bullet train to XiÂ’An, from there the night train to Nanjing, then via Suzhou to Shanghai

It was an unforgettable trip, the country was so different what I thought it was, Buildings are great, food was delicious, country is clean and you feel everywhere safe. And everyone says hi and likes to take photos of you. An absolutely a journey to have done once in your life.

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NewAlkyogre said:
Not about audio, havenÂ’t seen there any audio store. A month ago I visited China for a 2 weeks tour and it is absolutely worth it to do. Took a trip from Beijing, the bullet train to XiÂ’An, from there the night train to Nanjing, then via Suzhou to Shanghai

It was an unforgettable trip, the country was so different what I thought it was, Buildings are great, food was delicious, country is clean and you feel everywhere safe. And everyone says hi and likes to take photos of you. An absolutely a journey to have done once in your life.
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Uh huh. I bet they do like to take pictures of all foreigners in China.
 
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