Cary 300b se signature monos

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im going to do this in 2 parts. right now im giving a early quick review, then in a month or so when i settle into the 300b tubes i want and break them in and get a better feel for these amps in my system. i will go a little more in depth. it seem i do this all the time and then forget about the second part.lol.
first off, 90db speakers on 15w amps..... yea it drives em with ease. its only 2 clicks beyond where my 100w snappers would be on the volume dial. i could hardly believe it when i first turned them on.
but if i listened loud to the snappers at 12 o'clock im only at barely 1 o'clock with these amps. i got alot of volume dial left too!!! makes me very happy. i was worried about this.
i found the rectifier tubes sitting at my front door this morning and ice cold i pulled them out and put them in the amps, i couldnt wait. gave them 5 minutes to warm up and fired it all up.
one thing i will say is these amps are definitely not new, cary made them for 14 years and started in the early 90's. i think these were said to be made around 2004.
the tubes i presently have in these are a pair of 1960's brimars 6sn7's in one amp, and a mismatched single brimar and a brand new electro harmonics cheap one in the other amp. the rectifiers are new 1964 nos mullard gz37's.(cv378's)
the 300b's are new stock electro hamonics with about 10 hours on them.
so im not where i want to be tube wise. the rectifiers and one of the brimars came in smashed up , so i had to order new tubes and wait to fire these up until today.
straight up as soon as i dropped the needle in the groove the first thing i noticed was the position of the singer. where with my snappers she was standing back behing my turntable and to the left a little bit, now she is standing in front of my table and dead center.
maybe its the 300b magic im hearing already but everything is thicker sounding and more natural and more pronounced. the strings are resonating more the reverb is better. the midrange is super smooth and relaxed. yet not overly warm as i though it could possibly be.
the bass is (believe it or not) way better. still very tight, yet adding a little needed mud to it. my snappers could do great heavy bass with the cd player and on my old turntable. but since i got the merrill things were tightened up and i was hearing all the bass notes i was missing before. there are actually instruments playing that.lol. now im still hearing the notes but these 300b's are giving me the ability to get down lower and add a little deeper bass to the overall sound. i never would have guessed it. my 2 greatest fears with changing to these amps was that they wouldnt drive my speakers and that i would lose my bass. both have proved to be a non issue and im so happy about it.!!!!!
Oh yea back to the midrange, instead of how some instruments used to jump out at you. they now are in line with the rest and a nice even beautiful presentation. the soundstage was good with the snappers and is just as good if not a little more spread out, and a little bit better separation. so far about 5 or 6 albums in, i am thrilled with these amps. this is the first cary product ive ever owned, aside from a borrowed cad 120 a few years ago, i dont have much experience with the company. 300b magic is finally in my house. doug just mentioned to me that i have the least amount of watts on the shark now.lmao!!!! 15w baby!!!!
ive heard lots of tube amps in my day and alot recently. but for a 2004 pair of little compact amps these are unbelievably impressive. and even though less expensive than my snappers im saying a good step up musically.
and once again the sonus faber venere 3.0's have impressed the hell out of me being able to easily do anything i have asked of them. now running smooth with 15w pushing them. i never would have guessed they would do it so easily.
so far there is a definite overall improvement in the sounds in my house.!!!!!
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Steve, I'm so happy for you. So glad to hear that everything worked out well.

TUBE RULE !!!!

Here are my gift to you ~

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thanks paul !!!! im gonna call them "the little amps that could" lmao!!!!
thats a nice gift. ill take 2 :)
 
Steve. With your experience what is the pros and cons on 300B?
its a little early to tell, i dont see any cons yet. but for some reason the snappers mixed with my hovland pre were very warm together and sometimes too warm. im thinking it wasnt the right mix. i dont hear that with these so far at all. this is more natural sounding and doesnt make the preamp seem over liquidy, which it did at times before. but so far i just have pros, these are sounding better and better with each record. my pre is known for the endless beautiful highs, which it does so well, mixed with the silky smooth midrange of these 300b's and the added thump to the bass. im in tube heaven right now.
oh i thought of a con, the 300b's dont light up like i thought they would. i thought they be like light bulbs in there and they are not.lol.


Congrats on your new amps Steve!!......maybe some custom sized amp stands? :)
lmao!!!! i just made those ...... out of the leftovers from my diy rack.lol. i already have plans of doing a nice pair this week.
thanks, and thanks for the motivation. we have spoke about all the tools and saws we both have. it would be a shame to use a single piece of mdf spray painted white for too long .lmao!!!!
 
Hi Steve,

Not sure how I missed this. Congratulations on that cool 300B amp. Oh the glory of SET. Love it.
 
This was the first thing that stuck out to me:

"straight up as soon as i dropped the needle in the groove..."

Yeah baby, vinyl!!! You're badass old Skool Steve. Tubes and vinyl, the way music was meant to be played... :snicker:

I'm glad that your two biggest fears are a non-issue. With speakers sometimes it's not all about sensitivity. You have to look at the number of drivers that need to be driven as well. I'm sure glad you don't have to sell those Veneres... There is definitely a magic that you get from SET amps. They are delicate but not wimpy and allow the music to fill the room and just flow through you. When I remember other amps that I've had, both tube and SS, I remember listening to music. With my SET amp I'm in the music. Yeah that sounds like some crazy hippy shit but that's how I can best describe it.

Sounds like you found your new amps that will be a part of your system for a while. Now you get to lust over all those different tubes to roll in and out of them. GL's, Shuguang Treasures, Western Electric!!! Regular plate or mesh plate? If the 300b's sound like this, what about 2A3's? RCA's, Sylvania's, Marconi's?!!! :exciting:

It's a sickness...enjoy. :)
 
Congrats Steve! Welcome to the Cary club! They look gorgeous and I bet sound gorgeous too. Time to save up for:

Psvane WE300B 1:1 Replica (pair) | Psvane & Shuguang Treasure Audio Tubes, Caps and Amps

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yea i saw those, on sale for just $835 a pair. i guess its a worthy investment ill be saving for awhile and id have to add a couple pairs of these to the list, at a mere $290 a pair id have to get a a pair for each amp. so for $1400 altogether id probably be in heaven and never get rid of these amps. im guessing its worth it. :)
psvane 6sn7's
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Hi Steve,

Not sure how I missed this. Congratulations on that cool 300B amp. Oh the glory of SET. Love it.
Joe!!! havent heard much from you lately, thanks and i hope all is well.

This was the first thing that stuck out to me:

"straight up as soon as i dropped the needle in the groove..."

Yeah baby, vinyl!!! You're badass old Skool Steve. Tubes and vinyl, the way music was meant to be played... :snicker:

I'm glad that your two biggest fears are a non-issue. With speakers sometimes it's not all about sensitivity. You have to look at the number of drivers that need to be driven as well. I'm sure glad you don't have to sell those Veneres... There is definitely a magic that you get from SET amps. They are delicate but not wimpy and allow the music to fill the room and just flow through you. When I remember other amps that I've had, both tube and SS, I remember listening to music. With my SET amp I'm in the music. Yeah that sounds like some crazy hippy shit but that's how I can best describe it.

Sounds like you found your new amps that will be a part of your system for a while. Now you get to lust over all those different tubes to roll in and out of them. GL's, Shuguang Treasures, Western Electric!!! Regular plate or mesh plate? If the 300b's sound like this, what about 2A3's? RCA's, Sylvania's, Marconi's?!!! :exciting:

It's a sickness...enjoy. :)

oh yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think i just changed the way im building this system. first off i no longer want to sell this preamp, so far they are working as a combo way better than my previous combo and the internal phonostage sounds so good right now only reason to bring in en external is i want to play with more cartridges and need more loading options. and a big deal is saving money on not having to get more efficient speakers , that $$ is going to go into the phonostage,great tubes, and of course some fun cartridges like spu's, mono and mm's. im thinking spu and 300b's? about as old skool as it gets.lmao!!!!
TUBES AND VINYL 4 LIFE !!!
 
yea i saw those, on sale for just $835 a pair. i guess its a worthy investment ill be saving for awhile and id have to add a couple pairs of these to the list, at a mere $290 a pair id have to get a a pair for each amp. so for $1400 altogether id probably be in heaven and never get rid of these amps. im guessing its worth it. :)
psvane 6sn7's
TII-CV181-tubes-pair-with-box.jpg



Joe!!! havent heard much from you lately, thanks and i hope all is well.



oh yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think i just changed the way im building this system. first off i no longer want to sell this preamp, so far they are working as a combo way better than my previous combo and the internal phonostage sounds so good right now only reason to bring in en external is i want to play with more cartridges and need more loading options. and a big deal is saving money on not having to get more efficient speakers , that $$ is going to go into the phonostage,great tubes, and of course some fun cartridges like spu's, mono and mm's. im thinking spu and 300b's? about as old skool as it gets.lmao!!!!
TUBES AND VINYL 4 LIFE !!!

Steve - I was so hesitant to get the vintage WE replica series tubes from Psvane and I certainly wasn't going to eBay/China anymore after being repeatedly burned. But I spoke with Rachel at Grant Fidelity in Canada (you always have to leave a message - but she will call you back) and her comments about the tubes convinced me to take the plunge and I'm soooooo glad I did. Its hard to imagine these tubes getting even better after 100 hours. These aren't a little better than the Black treasures or P2's or stock tubes - these are miles better in every respect: bass, soundstaging, PRAT, midrange and especially, dynamics. Worth every penny.
 
Steve - I was so hesitant to get the vintage WE replica series tubes from Psvane and I certainly wasn't going to eBay/China anymore after being repeatedly burned. But I spoke with Rachel at Grant Fidelity in Canada (you always have to leave a message - but she will call you back) and her comments about the tubes convinced me to take the plunge and I'm soooooo glad I did. Its hard to imagine these tubes getting even better after 100 hours. These aren't a little better than the Black treasures or P2's or stock tubes - these are miles better in every respect: bass, soundstaging, PRAT, midrange and especially, dynamics. Worth every penny.
well you sold me on the veneres and i love them, and you sold me on these too, instead of getting the ones i was going to order next week, ill just chill for a few weeks and put the $$ together for these. where your 300b's are part of your amp, the 300b's in these amps are the biggest part, and should be the best i can find. im glad you were the guinea pig here cause i would never spend that kinda money or even have found these without your direction.thx!!!
 
Steve, congrats & mr happy pants time. Are you going to listen to the zu's anyway?
 
Steve, congrats & mr happy pants time. Are you going to listen to the zu's anyway?
yes but the guy who was supposed to have them this week got held up on his order.he was supposed to be getting 3 pairs and is only getting one pair , the druids. which was on my list to hear. so as soon as he gets them ,im going to hear them with an audio space 300b amp.
 
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