Assuming all HDMI cables are not alike
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dlb2
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I always tend to start at the source so I would say between the Blu-ray and the HT receiver.
dlb2
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That's a great option Sean being able to go direct from BR to TV. No signal degradation.
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I also have my Oppo 95 hooked directly to my TV since going through the AVR caused obvious picture quality degradation (even though it's supposed to be a direct pass-through). I did invest in a Shunyata Venom HDMI for this, although it didn't seem much different from the one that came with the Oppo (which does seem to be better than generic quality).
highEndguy
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I highly recommend to use the best HDMI between the BR and HT Processor.
So the HT decodes the video and audio signal
Try with Nordost, I think is the best in the market
So the HT decodes the video and audio signal
Try with Nordost, I think is the best in the market
I run Emotiva X series from my DVR and Oppo DVD tp my Yamaha AVR. The in-wall and in-ceiling run to the TV is a 50 footer. I tried several and the directional Monoprice with the "redmere" chip is the only one that works and works very well. The ARC function works very well on that cable as well for Netflix and Amazon movies.
CPP
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I use BlueJean HDMI cables between my cable box to avr , Oppo105 to avr and tv to avr. Never had an issue with sound or video and my eyes and ears could not tell any difference.
Big B
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I hear the wire world is a top HDMI cable.
BDP to processor is where your best cable should be. It will boost the signal it gets whether passthru or otherwise.
Signal degradation over distance happens well before the waterfall. Reconstitution is based on differential estimations given no error correction in the protocol. A poor quality cable over distance can introduce incorrect bits as well as bit loss.
HDMI cables do differ in performance. The better the cable, the better the chances of a bit perfect transmission. But in reality HDMI is not bit perfect no matter how good the cable.
I've tried a few HDMI cables & now settled with WireWorld Platinum Starlight G7 throughout the entire loom. You will notice the difference on a big screen. Also, analog ext.in rarely gets a show anymore given the quality of the HDMI audio with this cable unless I want to make some repetitive multi-ch DAC comparisons. (Denon AVP-A1HDA does not do any ADSP to any analog inputs if you don't want it to!)
Signal degradation over distance happens well before the waterfall. Reconstitution is based on differential estimations given no error correction in the protocol. A poor quality cable over distance can introduce incorrect bits as well as bit loss.
HDMI cables do differ in performance. The better the cable, the better the chances of a bit perfect transmission. But in reality HDMI is not bit perfect no matter how good the cable.
I've tried a few HDMI cables & now settled with WireWorld Platinum Starlight G7 throughout the entire loom. You will notice the difference on a big screen. Also, analog ext.in rarely gets a show anymore given the quality of the HDMI audio with this cable unless I want to make some repetitive multi-ch DAC comparisons. (Denon AVP-A1HDA does not do any ADSP to any analog inputs if you don't want it to!)
Shadowfax
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This question came up because I just recently picked up an OTA HDD Recorder. My older Sony XBR1 only has a single HDMI input.
If I want to utilize any of the on screen programming for my HT, I need it hooked up to the TV. So right now, I have the OPPO going to HT and then HT to TV. I had to buy an HDMI cable for the DVR and just picked up an AudioQuest one from Best Buy.
So I have the ones that came with my OPPOs and another generic and now the Audioquest. If I want to keep my current setup, I can swap the HDMI between the OPPO and HT and use the AQ.
In order to use both HDMI Outs from the OPPO, I would need to configure old style audio video connections back to the TV from HT for any on screen needs from the Integra.
I will have to try different setups to see what gives me the best performance and ease of use.
If I want to utilize any of the on screen programming for my HT, I need it hooked up to the TV. So right now, I have the OPPO going to HT and then HT to TV. I had to buy an HDMI cable for the DVR and just picked up an AudioQuest one from Best Buy.
So I have the ones that came with my OPPOs and another generic and now the Audioquest. If I want to keep my current setup, I can swap the HDMI between the OPPO and HT and use the AQ.
In order to use both HDMI Outs from the OPPO, I would need to configure old style audio video connections back to the TV from HT for any on screen needs from the Integra.
I will have to try different setups to see what gives me the best performance and ease of use.
What is the "processor"? As I said, I use HDMI only for video, and going through my Denon 4301 was clearly inferior to going straight to TV.
CPP
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Shadowfax
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I read thru my OPPO manual and thought about it.
I will reconfigure the cabling so that the better cable will go HDMI1 to TV and HDMI2 to HT (for audio).
I'll use the RGB-LR to TV on the DVR for main use it will have (wife records a daytime show and watches in the evening).
Then I will run an HDMI from HT OUT and tie wrap it at the TV for the rare times I need to do any setup or tweaking on the Integra or if I happen to record a good PBS concert. I can swap the HDMI cables at the back of the TV very easily in my room. I'll have to swap the OPPO cables and the Audio Quest cable to see which has better video or audio if any difference can be recognized. These cables are far from the high performance grades available but we shall see.
I will reconfigure the cabling so that the better cable will go HDMI1 to TV and HDMI2 to HT (for audio).
I'll use the RGB-LR to TV on the DVR for main use it will have (wife records a daytime show and watches in the evening).
Then I will run an HDMI from HT OUT and tie wrap it at the TV for the rare times I need to do any setup or tweaking on the Integra or if I happen to record a good PBS concert. I can swap the HDMI cables at the back of the TV very easily in my room. I'll have to swap the OPPO cables and the Audio Quest cable to see which has better video or audio if any difference can be recognized. These cables are far from the high performance grades available but we shall see.
It's hard for me to see an advantage to running anything that is not being processed through the processor. Please educate me if I am misunderstanding something?
I would compare both ways. Sometimes, cheaper video switching electronics will make the picture worse. For example, up scaling interlaced to progressive, lip sync or frame pull down can produce undesirable results. Especially so if your panel is also set to do some post video processing. Sometimes it is best to simply passthru from a high quality source such as BDP. Video post processing is good for cable or sat TV because of differing content & broadcast resolutions & framing.
Like you I prefer the convenience & features of networked video via a processor. The key is being selective of the type of post processing if any for each of your sources. And check your panel settings before choosing to apply any settings. Definitely ensure that your progressive modes are consistent across devices! Jerky or blurry credits are a tell tail that something is wrong.
Hope that helps.
CPP
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Just wondering when you are talking about a video switcher are you talking about a real video switcher like a $4,000 Blackmagic Design video switcher or a "AVR like my Denon 4311 or my OPPO 105 ? Just trying to understand what you guys are talking about.