ARC REF2SE vs Einstein Turntable's Choice (dual mono version)

Bobvin

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Is there anyone in the crowd who has compared Einstein Turntables's Choice (dual mono version) to REF2SE? Or, who has heard the TTC period? I have this phono-pre and Mikey Fremer once considered in his reference group of phono-amps, circa 2007 or so. I'm curious what others who've heard it have to say and any comparisons. One comment I have heard is that it has a little emphasis on leading edge of transient attacks, maybe slightly over-emphasizing that quality of dynamics, which yields an exciting presentation perhaps ultimately a little fatiguing. On some recordings I could be persuaded of this, and with my prior Wilson Sasha whose titanium tweeter might have also contributed?


Minister of finance said yesterday if I want 2SE I should consider it early Christmas present. Bless her heart. I am thinking if I have a large 600 hour breakin coming with REF10 and REF75, might be good to add REF2SE and break them all in together.

Then, like Nelson, I will be a total ARC whore (I say with respect Nelson, honest! ;))
 
Bob...whoring is caring or em....something like that :D

Purely on grounds of synergy and that spending your money is easier then spending mine, I would say go for the 2SE :thumbsup: :D
 
I had the Einstein and loved it.....Same time as the Fremer review. Smooth, fast, detailed, quiet and dynamic. I never found it fatiguing, but I don't remember what the rest of my system was, at the time. Like any excellent phono stage, it gets out of the way. To me, as good as a solid state phono stage gets. I could easily have lived with it forever but I never do that. :) I can't comment on the ARC.
 
BruceLet said:
I had the Einstein and loved it.....Same time as the Fremer review. Smooth, fast, detailed, quiet and dynamic. I never found it fatiguing, but I don't remember what the rest of my system was, at the time. Like any excellent phono stage, it gets out of the way. To me, as good as a solid state phono stage gets. I could easily have lived with it forever but I never do that. :) I can't comment on the ARC.
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Thanks for those comments! On another forum it was suggested if it ain't broke don't fix it, and, perhaps another cartridge would be a good place to spend some $$ if I was having a jones.
 
Bobvin said:
Thanks for those comments! On another forum it was suggested if it ain't broke don't fix it, and, perhaps another cartridge would be a good place to spend some $$ if I was having a jones.
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If you've got a Benz LPS, I don't think a cartridge change is going to smooth things out. You've got a neutral and revealing system. If you decide you want a change to your analog front end, maybe something like a Manley Steelhead would help. I just doubt that the ARC is anything more than neutral....Just like the Einstein.
 
I was only considering additional cartridge, for a somewhat different flavor! Your original comments have me thinking to leave front end alone and focus on taming my room. But that's another thread.
 
Bobvin said:
I was only considering additional cartridge, for a somewhat different flavor! Your original comments have me thinking to leave front end alone and focus on taming my room. But that's another thread.
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Got it. I misunderstood.
 
Compared to other phono stages in my system the arc ref2se wins on low end extension,presence and dynamics. I would say it is one click to the right in warmth.
 
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