A (GREAT) Visit to Gary's Listening Room

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I had a wonderful time at Gary’s home and “audio showcase” last night. I met Gary by exchanging posts on this site and we both live in the same neck of the woods.

Everything about Gary’s system different than mine, but I was struck by many similarities. First, his goal is to have wonderful music at hand and enjoying it by placing it a comfortable location. Gary, like me, “hides” much of his equipment in an enclosed cabinet. His is taller and min is wider, but both are not in view when you sit down and listen to your music.

Gary has a wonderful Macintosh system that sounds beautifully, very dynamic, very real. I envy his larger room. He can play his system 50% louder than mine and get a lot more out of it for that reason. My room is smaller and there is a limit to how much I can raise the volume and remain comfortable Yet I know my system, and most others, need to crank it out a bit more. One day, I might get room treatments and then I’ll be able to crank it up. I don’t know anyone around here that does that.

Gary too, organizes his discs and has a typewritten list of his discs. We listened, fully to Dave Brubeck’s Time Out and a couple of Chesky samplers. While the music sounded great, the singers were wonderful too.

I often don’t quite fit in with audiophiles, but I was perfectly comfortable here. You see, it took me a while to learn, that my hobby is not audio, but music. The equipment, which Gary worked long and hard on, and so have I, is the means to an end, it’s not the end to itself.

I didn’t come to Gary’s house to listen to his speakers; I came to hear his music. And I loved it.

Recently, when many of us met in an audio store in Manhattan, I felt a little bit out of place. First, instead of playing record or CD, short selections were mostly played; often not even a full cut. Then, when the record player was selected, instead of music, we heard flamingo dancing. People there knew of many different amps, I only have heard a select few. But how an amp sounds with different speakers and different inputs is something I can only speculate on. My “standard” is real music, not electronics.

Once again, though, Gary’s system confirms my thinking that a great and real sounding system does not have to be brand new, but needs someone with patience and a good ear to put it together. And also someone to lift 150 pound amps.

Gary’s Mac SACD/CD sounded great and I did wonder how it would sound on my system, and how my Krell would sound in his. Sadly, both of us get terrible FM reception on Long Island, and most of our favorite stations are gone anyway.

But I felt right at home with Gary and his system. I loved the music

How would I improve his system? Simple!!!!!!. Recliners!!!! Leave the system alone, it’s great, I wanted to stay a few hours more and then a recliner would help!!!! The guy only has sofas!!!!!!!! (Gary, you know I am teasing!!!!):wave: I just had a great time.
 
Thanks you for the great review, Barry! Next time we'll see a movie in your theater.

Sorry, but recliners are not in the stars. :D
 
Nice guys, sounds like a fun time. a music gathering no matter how many people involved is always a great time.
so you didnt feel comfy at Bobs? lol. i think going and testing gear is alot different than going and enjoying someones already together system. i also enjoy a system in someones home much more than gear in and out in a store or studio.
 
Stewve:

Let me clarify so it everyone understands. I met some great people and everyone was so nice. It was fun, but I felt a little bit like a fish out of water. We were NOT comparing CDS or music or anything like that, we just heard small cuts from cds and a record.

So people were discussing the equipment, not how musical it sounded. And they knew a lot more about different items. If I were to go again, I’d bring a batch of cds and sacd that I was familiar with and listen to hear how they sounded.
 
Barry, I would have to agree regarding the Rhapsody get-together. While I do enjoy a little compare and contrast, once I open a bottle of wine, for me, its time to just listen to music. While gear is fascinating, music comforts me. Which is why it was so damn easy for me to spend the afternoon at Myles' place. While he played DJ and offered cut after cut, we listened to music, not gear. (Thanks again Myles!)

Of course, Bob was a fantastic host—for the gear lover he was there to swap amps, speakers, etc. Which he did over and over as different folks came and went. Thanks again Bob. It was fun.

I look forward to sharing a bottle and some music anytime a fellow shark is swimming in the Portland area. (I hope to actually have everything broken in soon.)
 
It was def fun.

There were so many people that it was hard to stay focused on anything. Other than giving you a hard time about anything/everything! Lol :)

Small get togethers like this thread is much more about the music. My time at Myles was great for music. Bobs was more of a people meet and greet.

Stewve:

Let me clarify so it everyone understands. I met some great people and everyone was so nice. It was fun, but I felt a little bit like a fish out of water. We were NOT comparing CDS or music or anything like that, we just heard small cuts from cds and a record.

So people were discussing the equipment, not how musical it sounded. And they knew a lot more about different items. If I were to go again, I’d bring a batch of cds and sacd that I was familiar with and listen to hear how they sounded.
 
Stewve:

Let me clarify so it everyone understands. I met some great people and everyone was so nice. It was fun, but I felt a little bit like a fish out of water. We were NOT comparing CDS or music or anything like that, we just heard small cuts from cds and a record.

So people were discussing the equipment, not how musical it sounded. And they knew a lot more about different items. If I were to go again, I’d bring a batch of cds and sacd that I was familiar with and listen to hear how they sounded.
oh no need to carify , i was just along for the ride that day. it was great to meet the people i met that day including you. ive been to Bobs several times now and me and him have the best listening sessions when its just us in the room. we enjoy the same music and seem to also like/dislike the same gear. we dont do any testing just sit and enjoy whatever album on of us picks.
i wish i could have been to the second get together and meet all you other guys. i was there but you were all still sleeping.lol. and i couldnt stay any longer. maybe the third get together.
 
Barry - thanks for the write up. What a fun day for both of you and Gary has a system I would love to hear. Way to go guys!
 
Sounds like fun Barry ! These Shark get togethers are one of the great things about our forum !!
 
Wow. Hoooly mother of speaker!

Do you want to comment on the SQ for me, PUHLEEEEZE?
 
Thank you for the definition!

The sound quality is, well, really, really good.

The system has Pass Labs XVR1 three way active crossovers and is tri-amplified with more than ample power. Crossover points are 106 Hz and 4800 Hz, so the midrange is coherent and not divided in that all important range, which on the piano is from note G♯2/A♭2 to three notes higher than the piano goes. There are thunderous lows, and crisp clean highs. Having ribbons from 106Hz on up makes for a very fast, smooth non-ringing transient response and cone woofers are able to move a lot of air. Being a line source and a dipole, the speakers disappear into the room and there is essentially no sweet “spot.” These are not nearfield listening speakers. As long as you’re not sitting too close--at least 14 feet from the speakers, the sound is uniform throughout the room’s listening area. At normal listening distances, almost the entire room is the sweet spot.
 
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