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Thread: Taiko Extreme
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April 12, 2021, 11:42 AM #51
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Re: Taiko Extreme
my Taiko Extreme USB card had about 60 hours on it as of this morning and it's getting better.
what's interesting is as i multi-tasked this morning the music drew me into it at a different level than prior. i just could not ignore it. an anecdotal moment but telling as to where this is going.my system on Audiogon; https://www.audiogon.com/systems/615
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April 12, 2021, 12:16 PM #52
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April 12, 2021, 01:12 PM #53"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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April 12, 2021, 08:15 PM #54
Taiko Extreme
That’s exactly what I’m feeling/hearing Mike and in my case without yet the advantage of the Taiko USB card.
The music just draws you in emotionally with the immediacy of the presentation as you well put it: “at a different level than prior”.
- The effect of lowering the noise floor at the source to unleash the inner potential of the rest of the electronics. Truly a transformative product.
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April 12, 2021, 08:18 PM #55
Re: Taiko Extreme
Just listen to instrument decay. It goes on forever.
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April 12, 2021, 08:45 PM #56
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Re: Taiko Extreme
i know magicos are sometimes considered dynamically shy...but the way the magicos have opened up with the taiko is more so than when i changed amps. it all adds up but it the taiko truly took my system from hifi to holy sh*t lol
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April 13, 2021, 01:01 AM #57
Re: Taiko Extreme
Any news when they are gonna sell the card separately ? (for us mortals)
I may end up borrowing the card from friend's Taiko Extreme.Adam
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April 13, 2021, 04:12 AM #58
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Re: Taiko Extreme
I am in full agreement with the comments above, both on the Taiko Extreme uplift and then an additional level up with the USB card.
In my system (MSB Select II with ProISL, Shunyata Omega USB, and Everest loom with Omega cables) I have a hard time clearly differentiating between the Taiko player and Roon. It could be down to the fact that I do not have full range speakers (SF Electa Amator III). Amplification is Naim Statement.
Best, GN
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April 13, 2021, 08:49 AM #59
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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April 13, 2021, 09:46 AM #60
Re: Taiko Extreme
how many takio extremes are in the wild? assuming the USB PCIe card manufacture is outsourced -- it would seem selling the card separately to be a relatively easy business opportunity to undertake (just order more) once the small universe of existing customers have been quickly upgraded ... not to mention a means for takio to address the horrible server inequality situation.
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April 13, 2021, 09:53 AM #61
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Re: Taiko Extreme
I don't know how many Extremes are currently other there.
My guess is that the USB card is specifically voiced for the Extreme. I don't know how well it would just plug and play in other servers. I do know that the powering of it isn't standard. Most USB cards can be powered internally or with a 5V power rail. That is not the case with this card.
Again, anything I am saying is pure conjecture.Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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April 15, 2021, 05:46 AM #62
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Mike, what power cord are you using your TAIKO Extreme with?
Having an Shunyata Everest, I was wondering what would be the fitting power cord... a V14 digital as Caelin recommend for pure servers or more like a Sigma NR v2?
Maybe you tried already a couple...
Thanks!!
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April 15, 2021, 07:07 AM #63
Re: Taiko Extreme
This is just a biz decision. They ousource the cards and can order 50, 500 or 5000 as easily.
If the quality of the card should shine in any server build. Not saying that it will be nowhere near as good as the Taiko - but you should get a noticable uplift in the sound quality none the less.Adam
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April 15, 2021, 07:10 AM #64
Re: Taiko Extreme
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April 15, 2021, 11:52 AM #65
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Okay, so sounds the V14 digital is in any case a good starting point.
Regarding optional AES/EBU: Can be skipped when using a Omega USB I guess... and put the funds eg in a Sigma NR v2.
@N30: Very nice! ... is there already an MRSP?
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April 15, 2021, 10:18 PM #66
Taiko Extreme
Hi Elberoth,
I am stepping way above my level of expertise here, but it appears, as can be seen in the pic below, that the Taiko USB card has an additional umbilical connection that appears to be specific to the SGM Extreme, which may limit its plug-n-play adaptability to other servers.
I may also be mistaken, but it is my understanding that the Taiko USB may not even be compatible with all previous SGM server versions.
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April 15, 2021, 11:36 PM #67
Re: Taiko Extreme
Mike, I just watched the video with you and Jay discussing the Taiko Extreme on YouTube.
Good video, mate! Well done.
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April 16, 2021, 02:00 AM #68
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April 16, 2021, 02:06 AM #69
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I was hoping Taiko would sell it to non-extreme owners but they didn't want to. Its understandable that they want to push for more extreme sales with the new card.
Here are two more based on the same controller chip and same reference design. I have heard none, so don't know how it sounds but I am planing to get one and compare with JCAT XE USB that I currently use.
Here is the Taiko
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April 16, 2021, 03:11 AM #70
Re: Taiko Extreme
Carlos,
Yes, I have already discovered that. It would require some DIY job to fabricate a cable. Not sure about the connector on the card itself - it looks like a regular 4-pin CPU power connector.
Can anyone confirm that ? I have a spare 4-pin CPU power line in my server, fed from linear PSU.Adam
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April 16, 2021, 08:53 AM #71
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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April 16, 2021, 03:33 PM #72
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April 16, 2021, 03:36 PM #73
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Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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January 11, 2022, 07:09 PM #74
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Okay, Mr. Mike. You can't do this to us. How does the Taiko Extreme compare to the Aurender N30(SA?)?
Our next step is upgrading the music streamer/DAC. We currently have a Linn Selekt with Klimax DAC, a great "all-in-one" DSM that combines the streamer and DAC, but has no storage. Nothing beats it, IMHO, for the price.
We just had major medical bills, so it will be a while before we can spend money more wisely on audio equipment, but we are looking at:
1) Linn Klimax with Organik DAC (top-tier "all-in-one" DAC/Streamer): approx. $40K.
2) Taiko Extreme
3) MSB Premiere OR Reference DAC
4) Playback Designs Dream DAC
5) ... something from Esoteric DAC
6) Berkeley Audio Designs DAC
7) ... maybe dCs Rossino with clock DAC
So the question is: may we assume that it is always best sonically to go with seperate DAC + Streamer? If so, then of the DAC of choice (is it your Taiko or MSB?), what STREAMER do you prefer? In other words, what is your "dream combo" of DAC and Streamer?
Any feedback appreciated (hope this did not step on any toes).
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January 11, 2022, 07:20 PM #75
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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January 12, 2022, 12:57 AM #76
Re: Taiko Extreme
Okay, Sir. Will do. Thank you.
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January 12, 2022, 10:36 AM #77
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Did Taiko switch to their own OS in place of running a version of Windows 10?
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January 12, 2022, 10:44 AM #78
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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January 12, 2022, 10:54 AM #79
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Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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January 12, 2022, 11:04 AM #81
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January 12, 2022, 11:11 AM #82
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January 12, 2022, 11:21 AM #83
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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January 12, 2022, 02:19 PM #86
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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January 12, 2022, 05:48 PM #87
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There's almost never only a single approach or methodology that is best. This is a foundational principle of Geinrich Altschuler's TRIZ (Teoriya Resheniya Izobretatelskikh Zadatch) or Theory of Inventive Problem Solving. TRIZ - Wikipedia
So, I don't think one can generalize that an "all-in-one" solution e.g. the Linn Klimax DSM/3 is better than a "component-based" solution. This is because there is almost always more than one way to mediate a transfer function, and...everything is a transfer function.
Here's some additional VOC (Voice of the Customer) for you: I had the Linn Klimax DSM/3 here for 4 months while I reviewed it for TAS. While it is a truly excellent DAC/streamer and has superb sound quality, in my system, an Aurender N20 and a Lampizator Baltic 3 DAC sounds just as good. By that I mean as resolving, engaging, and immersive with fully comparable imaging and a soundstage that's actually wider than the Linn. The upside the Linn has is its Space Optimization software, which corrects for room response variance due to dimensional ratios, windows, window glazing and doors, etc. It's a very cool feature, but, IMHO, a "nice to have" rather than a "must-have".
I know lots of folks are waxing ecstatic about the Taiko Extreme, but IMHO, Aurender has f***in' got it goin' on. Plus their overall integration, ease of set-up, and ease of use make them very compelling value propositions.
Just my 2¢ from my direct experience with both for several months. Cheers.
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January 12, 2022, 05:59 PM #88
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Looks like just two pins and voltage should be 5 volts like most pci x usb cards are
But taiko does make things as they see best for there severs a good ideaTUBEZATOR
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January 12, 2022, 07:01 PM #89
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jRiver compatible? I read in another forum last year that Taiko's stripped down version of Windows 10 has removed certain software pieces, so that it could not accommodate jRiver. Anyone know if that has changed?
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Main Listening Rig:
Shunyata Denali D6000/SV2>Mojo Audio Deja Vu Evo Universal Music Server > or Jay's Audio CDT2-Mk3 > TotalDac D1-Tube > VAC Master Preamp > VAC Master 300 > JM Reynaud Orfeo Jubile
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Xfinity Cable Box or Oppo BDP105D > McIntosh C2300 Preamp > McIntosh MC302 Amp > JM Reynaud Offrande Supreme
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January 12, 2022, 07:32 PM #90
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I don’t think that has changed. I haven’t heard that name (JRiver) in a long time. The last time I used it, I think they were on version 18 or 19 and it was total bloat ware. Hopefully they’ve freshened it up and improved it. Reminded me of 90’s windows apps at the time.
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January 12, 2022, 07:41 PM #91
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jRiver is now up to version 28. I have used if for years, trouble-free, and the audio quality and functionality is excellent, imho. I think that it is a very popular server. Old habits are hard to break, and would hate to lose the familiarity and ease of use of jRiver.
Studio/Study:
Mojo Audio Deja Vu Evo Universal Music Server > or McIntosh MVP-901 > Mojo Audio Mystique Evo Dac > Raven Audio Osprey Integrated Tube Amp > Harbeth P3ESR
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Shunyata Denali D6000/SV2>Mojo Audio Deja Vu Evo Universal Music Server > or Jay's Audio CDT2-Mk3 > TotalDac D1-Tube > VAC Master Preamp > VAC Master 300 > JM Reynaud Orfeo Jubile
Home Theater:
Xfinity Cable Box or Oppo BDP105D > McIntosh C2300 Preamp > McIntosh MC302 Amp > JM Reynaud Offrande Supreme
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January 16, 2022, 06:43 AM #92
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January 16, 2022, 10:45 AM #93
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I stilll use JRiver (version 25) on a couple of the back-up systems (use a Lumin U1 in the main system with the Lumin software). I like the JRiver format but it does require knowing how to set it up to get the best sound and you still have to deal with Windows issues. With JRiver you need to set-up the device properly along with the output format and most importantly load the decoded file into memory. For the main PC, I have Vanatoo Transparent One Encore power speakers and it's (JRIver is) perfect for it's simplicy. I do the same with a cheaper pair of powered speakers on a back-up computer. I have an old small fanless PC in one other back-up system and it's not out-of-the question somewhere down the road, that could change. That's my fun back-up system for now where I have a modded Carver C-9 Sonic Hologram Generator with an Oppo 103D (which reads files from my NAS) as a transport. It doesn't see tons of use and that's why I haven't been in a rush to make changes.
Main System - Lumin U2, Modwright LS36.5 DM Preamp, VTV Purifi 1ET-7040SA with tube buffer, EMM Labs DAC 2X (ver. 2), Torus RM-20, Thiel CS 3.7s, 2 Rel S/812 subs
Back-up 1 - Premium Audio mini Gan Amp, Oppo 103D, 2 Richard Gray cond, Selah SA-2s, Sumiko S5 sub, Teac UD-503 DAC, Carver (modded) C-9
Back-up 2 - Onkyo TX-NR797, Panasonic DP-UB820, Vansevers cond, B&W P6s, PowerSoundAudio S1500 sub
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January 16, 2022, 11:38 AM #94
Re: Taiko Extreme
Interesting that nearly all individuals that did the head-to-head shootout between the Taiko Extreme and the Aurender N30SA at Suncoast Audio preferred the sound of the N30SA. However, there is one big item that favors the Taiko Extreme, it can use any software. With the recent improvement in sound quality of Roon 1.8, the Taiko Extreme/Roon combination remains a very attractive option, as the functionality of the Roon interface is second to none.
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
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January 16, 2022, 12:11 PM #95
Re: Taiko Extreme
Actually, once I got familiar with the Aurender interface, I found it to be more "Roon-like" than it initially appears. There's functionality and features there that is not immediately obvious at first glance.
In software parlance, it's a little bit more "modal" than Roon in the sense you have one more step than Roon to play a track or album in that the music needs to be "loaded" in the to playback Queue to be played, but the playback Queue also has an advantage that you can add multiple albums or tracks that can be played one after the other in sequence.
I found that, as I generally listen to an album in it's entirety, if you just select "Replace Queue", it loads that album into the Queue and immediately starts playing it.
There are a couple of features that are nice in the Aurender Conductor software that I only discovered recently and that may not be obvious to users at first glance that make the experience more "Roon-like".
The first is if you simply touch on the icon for the album art at the upper left of the playback section here...
it brings up the album cover art with the track info and controls overlaid onto it.
And...if you touch at the lower right of the album, it brings up an icon with three lines on it that overlays all the tracks for the album or...all the albums in the Queue. Then you can control the playback of tracks in the Queue directly from that overlay on the album art. It's pretty darn cool.
So, all that being said, after using the Aurender Conductor software for 4-5 months and being a long-time Roon fan and user, I've come the conclusion that the only practically significant* difference between Roon and the Aurender Conductor software is the Radio mode you can invoke on Roon.
*-practically significant is all that matters...in the REAL world.
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January 16, 2022, 01:07 PM #96
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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January 16, 2022, 01:44 PM #97
Re: Taiko Extreme
"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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January 16, 2022, 01:47 PM #98
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Re: Taiko Extreme
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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January 16, 2022, 01:48 PM #99
Re: Taiko Extreme
I would say Roon 1.8’s sonic improvements could make it interesting. Can’t wait for Taiko’s new software.
I really like how we are hearing how the network transport/software side of things has really become so important.
There is no loser. They are both exceptional. Choices are a good thing.
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January 16, 2022, 01:49 PM #100
Re: Taiko Extreme
I am going to go out on a limb and say the differences are probably very subjective to each persons preferences. At the level of the N30SA and Taiko there is no good/bad or best/worst just different.
Mike beat me to it.Marty
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