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    Re: Taiko Extreme

    my Taiko Extreme USB card had about 60 hours on it as of this morning and it's getting better.

    what's interesting is as i multi-tasked this morning the music drew me into it at a different level than prior. i just could not ignore it. an anecdotal moment but telling as to where this is going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I will say this so far: I’m beyond impressed. I wasn’t expecting THIS kind of impact.
    That is what everyone I have talked to is telling me. Sounds like a trully amazing product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    That is what everyone I have talked to is telling me. Sounds like a trully amazing product.
    I can’t wait to play in that sandbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne View Post
    my Taiko Extreme USB card had about 60 hours on it as of this morning and it's getting better.

    what's interesting is as i multi-tasked this morning the music drew me into it at a different level than prior. i just could not ignore it. an anecdotal moment but telling as to where this is going.
    That’s exactly what I’m feeling/hearing Mike and in my case without yet the advantage of the Taiko USB card.

    The music just draws you in emotionally with the immediacy of the presentation as you well put it: “at a different level than prior”.

    - The effect of lowering the noise floor at the source to unleash the inner potential of the rest of the electronics. Truly a transformative product.


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    Just listen to instrument decay. It goes on forever.


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    i know magicos are sometimes considered dynamically shy...but the way the magicos have opened up with the taiko is more so than when i changed amps. it all adds up but it the taiko truly took my system from hifi to holy sh*t lol

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    Any news when they are gonna sell the card separately ? (for us mortals)

    I may end up borrowing the card from friend's Taiko Extreme.
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    I am in full agreement with the comments above, both on the Taiko Extreme uplift and then an additional level up with the USB card.
    In my system (MSB Select II with ProISL, Shunyata Omega USB, and Everest loom with Omega cables) I have a hard time clearly differentiating between the Taiko player and Roon. It could be down to the fact that I do not have full range speakers (SF Electa Amator III). Amplification is Naim Statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Any news when they are gonna sell the card separately ? (for us mortals)

    I may end up borrowing the card from friend's Taiko Extreme.
    It is not clear they are going to sell the card separately. As of now they haven't stated that they will. They seem very busy trying to keep up with the current demand for Extremes as well as servicing current customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    It is not clear they are going to sell the card separately. As of now they haven't stated that they will. They seem very busy trying to keep up with the current demand for Extremes as well as servicing current customers.
    how many takio extremes are in the wild? assuming the USB PCIe card manufacture is outsourced -- it would seem selling the card separately to be a relatively easy business opportunity to undertake (just order more) once the small universe of existing customers have been quickly upgraded ... not to mention a means for takio to address the horrible server inequality situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aKnyght View Post
    how many takio extremes are in the wild? assuming the USB PCIe card manufacture is outsourced -- it would seem selling the card separately to be a relatively easy business opportunity to undertake (just order more) once the small universe of existing customers have been quickly upgraded ... not to mention a means for takio to address the horrible server inequality situation.

    I don't know how many Extremes are currently other there.

    My guess is that the USB card is specifically voiced for the Extreme. I don't know how well it would just plug and play in other servers. I do know that the powering of it isn't standard. Most USB cards can be powered internally or with a 5V power rail. That is not the case with this card.

    Again, anything I am saying is pure conjecture.
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    Re: Taiko Extreme

    Mike, what power cord are you using your TAIKO Extreme with?
    Having an Shunyata Everest, I was wondering what would be the fitting power cord... a V14 digital as Caelin recommend for pure servers or more like a Sigma NR v2?

    Maybe you tried already a couple...

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    I don't know how many Extremes are currently other there.

    My guess is that the USB card is specifically voiced for the Extreme. I don't know how well it would just plug and play in other servers. I do know that the powering of it isn't standard. Most USB cards can be powered internally or with a 5V power rail. That is not the case with this card.

    Again, anything I am saying is pure conjecture.
    This is just a biz decision. They ousource the cards and can order 50, 500 or 5000 as easily.

    If the quality of the card should shine in any server build. Not saying that it will be nowhere near as good as the Taiko - but you should get a noticable uplift in the sound quality none the less.
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    Re: Taiko Extreme

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicLover View Post
    Mike, what power cord are you using your TAIKO Extreme with?
    Having an Shunyata Everest, I was wondering what would be the fitting power cord... a V14 digital as Caelin recommend for pure servers or more like a Sigma NR v2?

    Maybe you tried already a couple...

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    Okay, so sounds the V14 digital is in any case a good starting point.

    Regarding optional AES/EBU: Can be skipped when using a Omega USB I guess... and put the funds eg in a Sigma NR v2.

    @N30: Very nice! ... is there already an MRSP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    This is just a biz decision. They ousource the cards and can order 50, 500 or 5000 as easily.

    If the quality of the card should shine in any server build. Not saying that it will be nowhere near as good as the Taiko - but you should get a noticable uplift in the sound quality none the less.
    Hi Elberoth,

    I am stepping way above my level of expertise here, but it appears, as can be seen in the pic below, that the Taiko USB card has an additional umbilical connection that appears to be specific to the SGM Extreme, which may limit its plug-n-play adaptability to other servers.

    I may also be mistaken, but it is my understanding that the Taiko USB may not even be compatible with all previous SGM server versions.


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    Mike, I just watched the video with you and Jay discussing the Taiko Extreme on YouTube.

    Good video, mate! Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmarin View Post
    Hi Elberoth,

    I am stepping way above my level of expertise here, but it appears, as can be seen in the pic below, that the Taiko USB card has an additional umbilical connection that appears to be specific to the SGM Extreme, which may limit its plug-n-play adaptability to other servers.

    I may also be mistaken, but it is my understanding that the Taiko USB may not even be compatible with all previous SGM server versions.


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    That's the power supply for the USB card. I think I read its +12v and +5v

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    Re: Taiko Extreme

    I was hoping Taiko would sell it to non-extreme owners but they didn't want to. Its understandable that they want to push for more extreme sales with the new card.

    Here are two more based on the same controller chip and same reference design. I have heard none, so don't know how it sounds but I am planing to get one and compare with JCAT XE USB that I currently use.





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    Re: Taiko Extreme

    Quote Originally Posted by cmarin View Post
    Hi Elberoth,

    I am stepping way above my level of expertise here, but it appears, as can be seen in the pic below, that the Taiko USB card has an additional umbilical connection that appears to be specific to the SGM Extreme, which may limit its plug-n-play adaptability to other servers.

    I may also be mistaken, but it is my understanding that the Taiko USB may not even be compatible with all previous SGM server versions.
    Carlos,

    Yes, I have already discovered that. It would require some DIY job to fabricate a cable. Not sure about the connector on the card itself - it looks like a regular 4-pin CPU power connector.



    Can anyone confirm that ? I have a spare 4-pin CPU power line in my server, fed from linear PSU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Carlos,

    Yes, I have already discovered that. It would require some DIY job to fabricate a cable. Not sure about the connector on the card itself - it looks like a regular 4-pin CPU power connector.



    Can anyone confirm that ? I have a spare 4-pin CPU power line in my server, fed from linear PSU.
    It may physically be a 4-pin CPU connector but a standard CPU connector powers with 2 12V+ and 2 12V-. I believe the Taiko connector is 12V and 5V.
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    Re: Taiko Extreme

    Quote Originally Posted by dminches View Post
    It may physically be a 4-pin CPU connector but a standard CPU connector powers with 2 12V+ and 2 12V-.
    CPU has always been 2x+12v and 2x0v. No negative voltage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    CPU has always been 2x+12v and 2x0v. No negative voltage.
    Yea. I typed too quickly.
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