TAD R1 incoming!

**bobwah** · August 13, 2016, 01:58 AM

Well I did something a bit rash and ordered some Tad R1.

I wasn't planning on upgrading speakers as the WB are very engaging and only a year old but I have always wanted to try Tad and I decided to jump on a good offer that was available.

Still weighing up whether to keep my current speakers (as I really do enjoy them) and build a second system or be "sensible" and just have the one system.
Im a bit reluctant to go the second system route as I have found having 2 set of cans has resulted in 1 set just sitting around not being used. Anyways I can make that decision later.
So about 1 month until they arrive, not that ill be checking the calendar on a daily basis

I will be running the R1 with darTZeel CTH8550, TAD Dac, Antipodes DX, Siltech prince sp and princess xlr.

Keen to hear of others experience with these speakers esp in regards to component matching.

**bzr** · August 13, 2016, 04:09 AM

Pssst.... don't sell the WB......

**bobwah** · August 13, 2016, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by bzr

Pssst.... don't sell the WB......

Can't keep all the toys

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**audio.bill** · August 13, 2016, 08:29 AM

The TADs are superb speakers as are the Wilson Benesch, but they're very different sounding when compared to each other particularly in their high frequency presentation. I hope that you get much enjoyment from them and please let us know your thoughts in due time. It's always exciting to get new gear!

**bobwah** · August 13, 2016, 10:38 PM

Agree Bill the WB speakers are superb and mine are only getting better as all my components get some hours on them. the darTZeel sounds wonderful with the WB

I'm tempted to have a digital rig in the family room and a analog rig in my music room.

I really like the look of the Absolare integrated or the Analog Domain integrated as an option for the R1 with the option to add a second AD unit later on.

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**cmalak** · August 14, 2016, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by bobwah

Agree Bill the WB speakers are superb and mine are only getting better as all my components get some hours on them. the darTZeel sounds wonderful with the WB

I'm tempted to have a digital rig in the family room and a analog rig in my music room.

I really like the look of the Absolare integrated or the Analog Domain integrated as an option for the R1 with the option to add a second AD unit later on.

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If you can afford to do it, that's a great idea (digital in family and analog in music rooms). Both speakers are great and nice to have options/flavors for diff moods.

**Elberoth** · August 14, 2016, 06:31 PM

Congrats ! Great speakers.

**bobwah** · August 14, 2016, 06:56 PM

Thanks guys, definitely a speaker I've wanted for a long time.
Couldn't pass up the opportunity!

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**db33** · August 20, 2016, 05:56 AM

Contratgs!!! but the cth8550 is sure not enough to the R1!!!

the monitor CR1 with FM ampli 2x400watt, with the Pass xa160.5 dont sound good: they was not enough!!! You need a lot of electricity!!!! TAD speakers need much more from the 8550.

the CR1 with the Soulution stereo is really just enough the have the great sound from this speakers.

**bobwah** · August 21, 2016, 10:44 PM

Fun times ahead with amp matching by the sounds of it

Smart move is probably to go straight for a TAD amp?

**db33** · August 22, 2016, 06:28 AM

bobwah,

i'm sure that the 8550 is not enough for the CR1 monitor......with the R1 forget.....

a 2x monobolck TAD? yes..and you have the DA1000 too -> a fully sysmte TAD will be great......but lot of $$$$$$

if is not a problem go listen the TAD...

I can only say you that's crazy how this speaker eat ampere! and not like B&W and CO......to have the Great sound that they can do you need a Nuclear energy available

**bobwah** · August 22, 2016, 07:31 AM

Well Father's Day is almost here but I'm thinking a nuclear plant might be pushing my luck

I'm sure the darTZeel will do a great job and later down the track I'll look at some mega amps.
I really like the look of the constellation centaur as well as the amps from Tad.

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**db33** · August 22, 2016, 07:36 AM

hifi and high end are 2 diffenrent world.... good luck

**bobwah** · August 23, 2016, 09:10 AM

If your insinuating darTZeel is Hifi I would say that's a load of rubbish. It's the least Hifi component I've had in my system

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 10:44 AM

Well the R1 are in customs, next week is the week

Woop

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 10:48 AM

Congrats Bob! Pairing with DartZeel?

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 10:56 AM

Thanks Mike!
I will use the darTZeel CTH but also try out some other amps in time. No rush though.

A mate has a TAD m2500 that he is willing to let me try (as he is upgrading to m600) so i'm looking forward to that.

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 10:57 AM

Nice. What cables are you thinking about using?

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 11:00 AM

Still haven't decided. But I already run siltech princess ic so I was thinking of getting Prince to match. I don't want to go megabuck cables. I will concentrate on power and room treatments first.

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by bobwah

Still haven't decided. But I already run siltech princess ic so I was thinking of getting Prince to match. I don't want to go megabuck cables. I will concentrate on power and room treatments first.

That's exactly what I use and would recommend.

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 11:07 AM

Would love to hear the Viva monos on the R1. If i'm happy with m2500 or my integrated then all is good and well.
m600 do seem the logical choice in the end though.

**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 11:08 AM

Good to hear!
Do you run a full loom with pc's n all?

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 11:08 AM

Hmmm....even the Triode TRX845M's could be the ticket.

Have you talked to Joe? He may have some tips. He had the CR1's.

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 11:13 AM

Hmm thanks for the tip. Wouldn't of even known about the Triode option. What sort of rrp are they?

I haven't spoken to Joe but he has left some very useful info on this site. All of a sudden its very relevant to me.

I only got the word my speakers are in town tonight and up until now I have just been enjoying my current speakers. And figuring out how I can keep both sets haha

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 11:14 AM

rrp?

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 11:15 AM

Recommended Retail Price.

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 11:16 AM

$27,500

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**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 11:19 AM

Not outrageously expensive. Will check it out. Thank you!

**joeinid** · August 26, 2016, 12:14 PM

Congrats Bob! The floor standing R1's are more efficient than the CR1 stand mount speakers.

My most favorite amp on my TAD CR-1's was the Music Reference RM-200II-T. It was outstanding.

**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 12:23 PM

Thanks Joe

A recommendation that won't break the bank. Im intrigued, thank you!

**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 12:26 PM

Which pre-amp did you match with the rm-200?
Thanks again!

**joeinid** · August 26, 2016, 12:33 PM

CJ GAT. The ART monos was also superb on the CR-1's.

Originally Posted by bobwah

Which pre-amp did you match with the rm-200?
Thanks again!

**bobwah** · August 26, 2016, 12:38 PM

Considering the calibre of electronics you have heard with the TAD that is a massive wrap for the rm200-t.
I appreciate you sharing

**joeinid** · August 26, 2016, 12:41 PM

Yes it is, the ART monos were technically better on them. But, at the lower volume I play my system, the RM-200 was pretty ballsy and sweet. Once the volume increased, the ART monos showed why they are king.

Originally Posted by bobwah

Considering the caliber of electronics you have heard with the TAD that is a massive wrap for the rm200-t.
I appreciate you sharing

**joeinid** · August 26, 2016, 02:35 PM

**kevinkwann** · August 26, 2016, 03:14 PM

Joe, how did you find the Dart/TAD combo? Please try not to be politically correct in your answer.

**Mike** · August 26, 2016, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by kevinkwann

Joe, how did you find the Dart/TAD combo? Please try not to be politically correct in your answer.

LOL. Joe was on his way to earning a Ph.D in "taming the TAD's". Not sure he completed his thesis though.

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**joeinid** · August 26, 2016, 05:04 PM

It was excellent, but a little polite and I wanted more meat on the bone.

I was not crazy about the Dart preamp and felt that the GAT and D'Agostino preamp was way better with the Dart amp. The Burmester 077 preamp with external power supply was superb.

Originally Posted by kevinkwann

Joe, how did you find the Dart/TAD combo? Please try not to be politically correct in your answer.

**joeinid** · August 26, 2016, 05:05 PM

Nope, never did finish

Originally Posted by Mike

LOL. Joe was on his way to earning a Ph.D in "taming the TAD's". Not sure he completed his thesis though.

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**bobwah** · August 27, 2016, 12:42 AM

Did you ever get the chance to try TAD electronics with cr1 Joe?

My first port of call will more than likely be the m2500..

**joeinid** · August 27, 2016, 04:59 AM

Hi Bib,

I never did try TAD electronics, but really wanted to. Dealers near me seemed very hesitant to invest in the gear and I didn't want to compound any issues. Plus I fear resale would have been not good should I want to move on.

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**bobwah** · August 27, 2016, 05:12 AM

Yeh it's a big investment no doubt.
Spoke to a local dealer today who carries Conrad Johnson. He doesn't carry totl stud though. Has a et5 linestage

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**joeinid** · August 27, 2016, 05:23 AM

Hi Bob,

Are you in Australia?

**bobwah** · August 27, 2016, 05:24 AM

Yes

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**joeinid** · August 27, 2016, 05:26 AM

Nice. I guess everything is more expensive and a little more difficult to get.

Originally Posted by bobwah

Yes

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**bobwah** · August 27, 2016, 05:29 AM

It's not easy to demo gear. Especially where I live it's slim pickings.

Was talking to a dealer today though who carries the classe ca-m600 monos. Look forward to checking them out

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**bobwah** · August 27, 2016, 05:31 AM

Gear from Japan isn't too bad price wise as we have a fta with them

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**joeinid** · August 27, 2016, 05:35 AM

Another forum friend raved about the CA-M600's on his TADs. I think adding a sweet preamp to them would be amazing.

Originally Posted by bobwah

It's not easy to demo gear. Especially where I live it's slim pickings.

Was talking to a dealer today though who carries the classe ca-m600 monos. Look forward to checking them out

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**bobwah** · August 27, 2016, 07:20 AM

Would be great if they work for me. Not stupid money and I am a fan of understated looking gear eg Vitus, constellation and the like.

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**Mike** · August 27, 2016, 01:55 PM

Bob, not to worry. You already mentioned you have the right cables (Siltech). I think I would suggest some proper room treatments before anything. If you can't do absorption or diffusion at first and second reflection points due to WAF, then tall silk plants at those locations will work, so will bamboo sticks or like what Raidho uses.

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