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    Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    Do such animals exist?
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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    I don’t need any subs


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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    Martin Logan subs.
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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    They do exist but they are not cheap.

    Wilson makes some and Magico makes some.
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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    A sub being ‘fast’ is more about how it is integrated with the mains than a brand, style, or type. To be ‘fast’ a sub must time align with the mains, which usually means some sort of external crossover that has the ability to delay the acoustic output of the mains so it matches that of the sub.
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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    One could also characterize a fast subwoofer based on group delay and decay measurements. Independent of any integration with other speakers.
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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    Quote Originally Posted by W9TR View Post
    A sub being ‘fast’ is more about how it is integrated with the mains than a brand, style, or type. To be ‘fast’ a sub must time align with the mains, which usually means some sort of external crossover that has the ability to delay the acoustic output of the mains so it matches that of the sub.
    Totally agree.

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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    Quote Originally Posted by W9TR View Post
    A sub being ‘fast’ is more about how it is integrated with the mains than a brand, style, or type. To be ‘fast’ a sub must time align with the mains, which usually means some sort of external crossover that has the ability to delay the acoustic output of the mains so it matches that of the sub.
    Wouldn't it be better to have the crossover/low pass filter in the sub(s) provide the necessary electrical characteristics to mate seamlessly with the mains?
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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Musicfirst View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to have the crossover/low pass filter in the sub(s) provide the necessary electrical characteristics to mate seamlessly with the mains?
    Read about properly integrating a sub here.


    https://jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us...&source=search


    https://jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us...&source=search

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    Re: Subs for Ultra Fast Speakers

    Of course if you sell $3000 outboard crossovers you will contend that's the best method.
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