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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    Quote Originally Posted by ricred1 View Post
    I received the REL Baseline Blue cables. I don't want to exaggerate, but to simply say that the REL Baseline Blue cables makes a difference would be an understatement. Everything and I mean everything is improved relating to detail across the entire audio spectrum. Adding the second subwoofer improved space and equalized my room. I'm willing to say as it pertains to improving detail, adding the Baseline Blue is more impactful than adding the second subwoofer.
    Ordered mine today... in fact my dealer still has one on stock. So should be able to connect it this weekend. Really excited to see what difference it brings! Especially the part you mentioned that details improved over the whole spectrum. Sounds like a speaker or DAC upgrade. Anyway, we‘ll see once it‘s hooked up and running...

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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    MusicLover,

    That's good that you don't have to wait for a couple of weeks like I did. Hopefully you'll yield similar results.

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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    I added the Blueline cable this weekend and it definitely made a very noticeable impact. First I chose a couple of tracks with kick drum bass to look at those qualities. For me it was firmer, tighter, more defined and less bloated. Like you went for the gym for two years and now got a more defined 6-pack. Guess this is an occasion where one would say (no) pun intended.
    Anyway... after paying attention to solely bass, I found to my surprise that voices became better defined and the general presentation got more realistic / „grown-up“.
    I only had one day to really compare, since I swap USB cables from AQ diamond to Shunyata Sigma the day after, which also brought a very meaningful in terms of realism to voices...

    Given the price the Bassline is a no-brainer. When one compares what other cables costs, one could justify price of $1.500-2.000, if you got a 212/SE, G1 Mark II or No. 25 in my option. Glad to see that REL prices their products very reasonable!!! ))

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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    MusicLover,
    It's great that you hear similar improvements in your system with the Baseline Blue. I use a Wireworld Platinum USB cable. It sounds more open and detailed compared to the AQ Diamond when I compared them in my system. What differences do you hear between the AQ Diamond and Sigma?

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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    Hi,


    well I‘d say the Sigma (and Alpha, which I compared at home vs the AQ Diamond before ordering the Sigma) sounds more relaxed, realistic, analog, organic... to tick-off all the cliche terms.
    For me the AQ Diamond sounds like a overly bright photograph that grabs your attention but makes you feel tired quicker when listening. Since it‘s per se a very good cable you might only notice it when you hear it against a cable like the Alpha. Both Alpha and Sigma sound more earthy and like a gentle massage were you could easily forget about the quality of these cables. Of course one could argue that it is system dependent - which it always is - but my feeling is that the Alpha/Sigma stay closer the music(s) flow. When my dealer asked me last year after having tried the Alpha, I said it‘s like you upgraded from a $1.000 to a $ 10.000 DAC. If you get a chance to audition it at home, I‘d give it a try.
    I haven‘t heard the Wireworld so could be that you like it due to similar reasons. How would you describe the sonic differences?

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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    I think the WW sounds "natural", with a more open/better defined soundstage.

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    Re: REL No. 25 versus G1 MkII, versus 212SE...

    Hi there,

    a bit off topic both nevertheless my hope is somebody here with a pair of REL subs and mono amps can help me out this my little „bass riddle“:

    My current set-up is a Rega Osiris Integrated and a single REL No. 25: in this combination the deep bass is really punchy, grippy and with both heft and groove. I really like it!!
    Currently I‘m testing a pair of Bryston 28b3 monos. In this setup i love everything (Resolution, Fine Detail, Speed, musicality) which are considerably improved... just the bass is not there as with the REL connected to the Rega integrated, which I find pretty awkward. Also I‘m sure it‘s not that the bass is now so much leaner as to fool one in thinking it‘s less. It definitely has less punch.
    REL says they don‘t recommend connecting a single sub to two monos (which I didn‘t). Instead I just used the two audio signal cable ends (Yellow + red) and connected them to the right mono. My dealer said it‘s okay since deep bass is the same on both right and left channel. Still I find the bass nothing like it‘s when connected to the integrated which is a bummer, because everything else is so much better.
    I checked if the two monos plus REL could draw too much current from my Shunyata Power distributor by connecting the REL to a socket in the adjacent room with no change.

    => My best guess would be that the channels are NOT identical and that for mono amps one would indeed need a second sub.
    Maybe anyone here with a REL stereo pair could test by deactivating their second sub and compare. Would be much appreciated!

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