Magico Q15s

**the professor** · February 19, 2017, 08:37 PM

Hi,

My pair of Q15s have about 700 hours on them - they've been on 24/7 even when I've been gone but at a lower volume. To not totally upset the wife and dogs wile I'm away.

I can say WOW!!!!!!!!! I truly expected - good and no complaints - but no where close to worth the money (i got a bonus and figured what the hell) , but marginally better than what i had before. I was way wrong.

I totally believe in 2 subs for a 2 chanel system. Even tho subs basically operate in a non directional freq. It is apparent through listening that it makes a difference. Not in bass but in the spacial presentation of the system. I don't understand it - just believe after numerous systems over the last 15 years. Some with $700 subs, so i can't say i'm hearing through my pocketbook.

The Q15s are in my Ayre KXR20/Dag 400 monos/Raidho D5 system. I have them running as an addition to - no crossover to the main speakers. I have them coming in at a 24db per coctive slope at 34hz on the right chanel and 39hz on the left. I guess weirdness in my room. Or maybe my ear definciencies. Who knows - cause when I do measurements -- it says it should be 38 on the right and 46 on the left and both 2-3 db higher. But I don't care - i listen for my self - and i tap my toe better with my ear decisions. I love measurements - probably my math background.

What I can say is ---- the micro detail in the bass is astronomical. at ANY volume the bass is something I've never heard before. Its just as much of a "wow" moment as when I heard 300b's on a women vocal 20-25 years ago in a horn tap system. (my second system) Wholly shit - thats real, yes bass that is REAL.. This is truly the first time I ever heard that with bass. It's a whole new world.

I truly wonder as good as these are - maybe combined with just a 2 way that integrated low enough would be the SOTA best system. Yes they are that good. I love smaller 2 ways - I'll try sometime, I'm sure.

Whether you like the Magico sound or not - do NOT ignore these. I've had Magicos - but decided on Radio, but thats just a preference - not better. The Magico bass and especially in the Q15s is the best I've ever heard. And I don't think there is anything close being manufactured today - and i've tried to find something better, but failed by a bunch (feb 2017).

I'm still searching - I'll report back if I find something better.

**Ritmo** · February 19, 2017, 10:39 PM

Jock - Fantastic! I'm glad you are happy with them.

**Melbguy1** · February 20, 2017, 12:02 AM

Nice write up & great feedback Jock! I rationalized that my current Magico S5 Mk2's are good enough to be my long-term reference speakers as I know there are so many other areas of my system I can improve first before I need better speakers (i.e: amp, front end, racks, room & yes adding a pair of Magico subs). I owned my previous Infinity Reference 60's for 18 years...I think these will be keepers too.

**Mike** · February 20, 2017, 12:06 AM

Congrats Jock! When we heard them together at Magico HQ, the difference was significant.

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**MDP** · February 20, 2017, 06:53 AM

Congrats Jock!!!

As you have said, subs add so much more to the sound than just bass. After I added my REL subs and experienced the difference they made to the total musical presentation, I will never own a system without dual subs!!

**Kuoppis** · February 20, 2017, 07:10 AM

Congrats, a great choice indeed.

I also like the idea of super subs with super 2-ways for a SOTA system. Keen to hear more about your experiments.

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**Alpinist** · February 20, 2017, 07:15 AM

Congrats Jock, this is wonderful news. I'm really happy to hear that you were able to achieve the sonic results you desired by overlaying the Q15 Sub's bass with the D-5's rather than rolling off the D-5's bass as Jon Valin did.

Best,
Ken

**La Dolce Vita** · February 21, 2017, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by the professor

Hi,

My pair of Q15s have about 700 hours on them - they've been on 24/7 even when I've been gone but at a lower volume. To not totally upset the wife and dogs wile I'm away.

I can say WOW!!!!!!!!! I truly expected - good and no complaints - but no where close to worth the money (i got a bonus and figured what the hell) , but marginally better than what i had before. I was way wrong.

I totally believe in 2 subs for a 2 chanel system. Even tho subs basically operate in a non directional freq. It is apparent through listening that it makes a difference. Not in bass but in the spacial presentation of the system. I don't understand it - just believe after numerous systems over the last 15 years. Some with $700 subs, so i can't say i'm hearing through my pocketbook.

The Q15s are in my Ayre KXR20/Dag 400 monos/Raidho D5 system. I have them running as an addition to - no crossover to the main speakers. I have them coming in at a 24db per coctive slope at 34hz on the right chanel and 39hz on the left. I guess weirdness in my room. Or maybe my ear definciencies. Who knows - cause when I do measurements -- it says it should be 38 on the right and 46 on the left and both 2-3 db higher. But I don't care - i listen for my self - and i tap my toe better with my ear decisions. I love measurements - probably my math background.

What I can say is ---- the micro detail in the bass is astronomical. at ANY volume the bass is something I've never heard before. Its just as much of a "wow" moment as when I heard 300b's on a women vocal 20-25 years ago in a horn tap system. (my second system) Wholly shit - thats real, yes bass that is REAL.. This is truly the first time I ever heard that with bass. It's a whole new world.

I truly wonder as good as these are - maybe combined with just a 2 way that integrated low enough would be the SOTA best system. Yes they are that good. I love smaller 2 ways - I'll try sometime, I'm sure.

Whether you like the Magico sound or not - do NOT ignore these. I've had Magicos - but decided on Radio, but thats just a preference - not better. The Magico bass and especially in the Q15s is the best I've ever heard. And I don't think there is anything close being manufactured today - and i've tried to find something better, but failed by a bunch (feb 2017).

I'm still searching - I'll report back if I find something better.

Jock...WOW!...so very happy for you! Hard to believe you can improve your system any more than you already have! Just outstanding!

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**Odyssey** · February 21, 2017, 01:53 PM

Congrats Jock. I bet the impact of these subs is visceral! Great selection.

**RonR** · February 21, 2017, 08:48 PM

Hello Jock,

Do the Magico subwoofers offer any ability to accept a speaker level signal (i.e., REL style)?

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