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    We had a couple of fun races in Austria and Silverstone. However, Barcelona was parade and a boring race. Clearly, the Mercedes driven by Lewis is the best combination and a class above the rest. This is just as bad as Ferrari and Schumacher in the 2000’s.

    Good to see Red Bull - Honda performing better as well as McLaren and Renault. Also exciting to see Racing Point being competitive as well - regardless of the brake duct controversy.

    Sadly, the Ferrari’s are so bad they should be called “Scuderia Porky”. Not to mention that Vettel is underperforming in the worst way.
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    We had a couple of fun races in Austria and Silverstone. However, Barcelona was parade and a boring race. Clearly, the Mercedes driven by Lewis is the best combination and a class above the rest. This is just as bad as Ferrari and Schumacher in the 2000’s.

    Good to see Red Bull - Honda performing better as well as McLaren and Renault. Also exciting to see Racing Point being competitive as well - regardless of the brake duct controversy.

    Sadly, the Ferrari’s are so bad they should be called “Scuderia Porky”. Not to mention that Vettel is underperforming in the worst way.
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    such a pity, that the rain did not come soon enough. could have been nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tube-vds View Post
    such a pity, that the rain did not come soon enough. could have been nice.
    You are right, at least it would have added some excitement to the race. However, Lewis is so good on the rain, he would have still won.
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    You mean the car , not so much lewis is so good , IMO there are at least 2-3 drivers faster than Lewis currently ...

    Would have loved some rain myself , rain is a good equalizer , Max would certainly have been able to steal another win again...

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    New formula one fan here (last couple of years - didn’t know it existed until the Netflix series). It is interesting to me that Lewis and merc are so dominant, yet I still find the rest so fascinating. Wow, it would really be fun if there were competition at the top. Lewis looks like he’s just driving in a track with no one around him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    You mean the car , not so much lewis is so good , IMO there are at least 2-3 drivers faster than Lewis currently ...

    Would have loved some rain myself , rain is a good equalizer , Max would certainly have been able to steal another win again...
    Which drivers are faster??

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    Williams....

    Wow

    Things must be worse than anyone thought for the new owners to clean house within 2 weeks of purchase and mid season.....I love this move

    Who will be the new team manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Williams....

    Wow

    Things must be worse than anyone thought for the new owners to clean house within 2 weeks of purchase and mid season.....I love this move

    Who will be the new team manager?
    You might be on to something. It will be interesting to watch the next season of the Netflix F1 series and see folks reactions behind the scenes.

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    A lot of people at Williams were naive to think it would be ‘business as usual’ after the acquisition. I’m not surprised the new owners made swift work of replacing Claire.
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    Even with the sentimental perspective of the Williams family, with a 7 year tenure as the team leader, it is time for Claire to move on. Williams is racing with the best F1 engine (Mercedes) but their cars have been consistently the worst in the series over the last 3 years.

    Change is good. Organizations that don’t reinvent themselves eventually disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Even with the sentimental perspective of the Williams family, with a 7 year tenure as the team leader, it is time for Claire to move on. Williams is racing with the best F1 engine (Mercedes) but their cars have been consistently the worst in the series over the last 3 years.

    Change is good. Organizations that don’t reinvent themselves eventually disappear.
    Agree that change is good. But if you are the owner of the organization you can still instill change without having to relinquish that role.
    What I see here a situation that affects most family-owned business: they don’t make it past the third generation (second in this case). Lots of studies and reasons why that would apply here. There is a famous write up by Peter Drucker on that.

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    In every interview I've seen with Claire, she really admired her dad in ways daughters usually do. Watching her fails, its evident she's neither the rainmaker or 'Indian chief' her dad was. its best for all concerned she step down, especially for the new capital partners.

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    Claire had to go , she destroyed Williams ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    F1 1.6L V6 15,000rpm

    IndyCar 2.2L V6 12,000rpm

    NASCAR 5+/- L V8 9000rpm

    Guess which one has the highest piston mean speed ..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Which drivers are faster??
    Easy , look at the ones who have beaten him in lesser cars ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Guess which one has the highest piston mean speed ..?
    Easy the V8

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Easy , look at the ones who have beaten him in lesser cars ...
    One offs are meaningless...

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    If you think so and BTW Max and Danny not doing one off’s , not to mention completly being schooled at Monaco by Danny ..

    Lewis is better than Vettel for sure (faux4) but not as good as the original Faux 7 (Schumacher) who had enuff epic drives to prove some worth ( can you name one epic drive by lewis ) he will never be regarded with the great same as Schumacher too many easy wins and orders for Teammates to move over , In equal cars he wouldnt be able to beat Danny ,Max or Sainz , Crap he struggled to beat Nico a midfielder at any level ..

    Nope Lewis is just the new Faux 7 less than the last one, stick him inna RB and show me a win ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    If you think so and BTW Max and Danny not doing one off’s , not to mention completly being schooled at Monaco by Danny ..

    Lewis is better than Vettel for sure (faux4) but not as good as the original Faux 7 (Schumacher) who had enuff epic drives to prove some worth ( can you name one epic drive by lewis ) he will never be regarded with the great same as Schumacher too many easy wins and orders for Teammates to move over , In equal cars he wouldnt be able to beat Danny ,Max or Sainz , Crap he struggled to beat Nico a midfielder at any level ..

    Nope Lewis is just the new Faux 7 less than the last one, stick him inna RB and show me a win ,

    Never happen as good as his car no more than ..! - Martin Brundle
    One off wins....

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    You mean 12 off wins ...

    Button did sully him as a teammate too , promptly ran off to Mercedes , to an easier target, which Proved not . Bottas current Numbing ambition is another safety zone.

    Bottas move over , lewis would like to pass ..!

    Now thats the F1 spirit

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    If you think so and BTW Max and Danny not doing one off’s , not to mention completly being schooled at Monaco by Danny ..

    Lewis is better than Vettel for sure (faux4) but not as good as the original Faux 7 (Schumacher) who had enuff epic drives to prove some worth ( can you name one epic drive by lewis ) he will never be regarded with the great same as Schumacher too many easy wins and orders for Teammates to move over , In equal cars he wouldnt be able to beat Danny ,Max or Sainz , Crap he struggled to beat Nico a midfielder at any level ..

    Nope Lewis is just the new Faux 7 less than the last one, stick him inna RB and show me a win ,

    Never happen as good as his car no more than ..! - Martin Brundle
    Lewis handed Alsono his ass in '07, a two-time WC and it was Lewis' rookie year! Alonso being #1 at McLaren (best engines, best mechanics, best engineer!) wasn't able to catch Ham: 6 poles vs Alonso's two and 4 wins vs Alonso's two. Schumacher was always number 1 at Ferrari and hardly drove a clean race (Portugal 1997?) and who can forget when he pulled that crappy stunt to steal the WC in '95 away from Hill. Oh, almost forgot, Benetton was cheating in '94. We now know they were using traction control (formally banned) at every start. Except for Piquet at Bennetton, MS never had a WC at Ferrari as a team mate and team orders were strictly followed by the horsey team.

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    Lewis Hamilton better than Schumacher, Senna - Murray Walker

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    Handed Alonso , hahaha

    You should go deeper Puro, Lewis feed off of Alonso data and help right up until the split and with the might of Ron and Mcclaren still couldnt muster to beat him in the end ..

    In case you missed it Alonso was always rated higher than lewis right up until the end, there’s a lot on behind the scenes info available if you are interested .. Start with Lauda interview with lewis and him explaining how fantastic Alonso was and how he needed his data to match him ..

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    BTW Lewis couldnt carry Senna ‘s Jock straps , i do see him trying them on thou ..


    Schumacher , well had issues, so no argument there , but he did have epic drives over his reign, Same as Alonso , Go ahead and name one of lewis’s epic drives, granted both he and Schumacher had to force teammates to move over to let them look good at times , Schumacher had Barrichello thou who is even faster than lewis IMO at his peak so Schumi had an excuse, you gotta take points off for asking Bottas and
    Nico to move over ..

    Now tell me how fast Button was beating lewis or Rosberg , Max, Danny, Bottas , crap even Heiki ...! ,

    When you are in the best car in history and spent all your career driving top cars its not only how much you win as expected but who you lose to and how they are rated, is what determines your real worth ..

    Brundle said it perfectly when he said Hamilton is as good as his car and not like Schumacher , Senna or Prost who could win races above the level of their car , today only Max and Danny is doing/has done such ..!


    Lewis is barely Top 10 greats if at all ....!

    A faux Champ same as Vettel before him ...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    BTW Lewis couldnt carry Senna ‘s Jock straps , i do see him trying them on thou ..


    Schumacher , well had issues, so no argument there , but he did have epic drives over his reign, Same as Alonso , Go ahead and name one of lewis’s epic drives, granted both he and Schumacher had to force teammates to move over to let them look good at times , Schumacher had Barrichello thou who is even faster than lewis IMO at his peak so Schumi had an excuse, you gotta take points off for asking Bottas and
    Nico to move over ..

    Now tell me how fast Button was beating lewis or Rosberg , Max, Danny, Bottas , crap even Heiki ...! ,

    When you are in the best car in history and spent all your career driving top cars its not only how much you win as expected but who you lose to and how they are rated, is what determines your real worth ..

    Brundle said it perfectly when he said Hamilton is as good as his car and not like Schumacher , Senna or Prost who could win races above the level of their car , today only Max and Danny is doing/has done such ..!


    Lewis is barely Top 10 greats if at all ....!

    A faux Champ same as Vettel before him ...!
    U r clueless, subjective, and obviously don't know dick about F1......

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    Sad news today with Sergio Perez forced out at Racing Point. If it weren’t for his investment a couple years ago the team wouldn’t have survived. Rumor has it that he and Hulk will replace KMag and Grosjean at Haas.
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    Checo Pérez has been a pretty good racer. Unfortunately, he may never get a chance to drive a top F1 car. I do hope he can stay in F1.
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    I'm sure Checo was paid very well by Stroll to dissolve his contract. He's a very good driver, keeps quiet and doesn't complain. He deserves to get a top drive but I agree he might never get the chance. Why do I feel Ron Dennis put a label on him that still follows him????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    U r clueless, subjective, and obviously don't know dick about F1......
    Obviously you are some kind of Dick expert , so i will yield the floor ..!

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    Reading the reviews of the Netflix series, I can only conclude that a lot of folks (specially younger American folks) who had never cared about the sport will become followers. Mercedes and Ferrari saw the response to the first season and quickly signed up. I wonder when will the 3rd season air.

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    I had ZERO interest in F1, then watched the series and I’m hooked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    U r clueless, subjective, and obviously don't know dick about F1......
    Well, there is something to it. I think we all understand that if Max or Charles would have been in Bottas' car over the last 2 years things would have looked different now.
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    Well I think Hamilton got screwed with 10 seconds for a ticky tack infringement....

    And talk about getting screwed...the Bulls just got the shaft from Honda. I wonder how much suck-up will be taking place to get back in with Renault...At least their motors seem to be coming into their own. I sure hope the Bulls stay in F1.

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    Second time in a couple of decades that Honda came into F1 and departed when their efforts didn’t bear fruit. Frankly, I was surprised as to the poor performance and unreliability of the Honda engine during their tenure with McLaren. And, now, as their engine has gotten to a point of better reliability and performance, the board decides to pull out.

    Honda has had some very competent engineers in the past. However, they came into this F1 era a few years behind the other engine constructors and never recovered. The formula changes again for 2022 and Honda had the opportunity to be in equal grounds with others for this next generation. Their decision puts in to question their believe and capabilities to be a truly competitive and championship level engine provider in this hybrid era. Honda has the financial means; however, it appears they have no desire to be in the top racing formula.

    Red Bull and Alpha Tauri now need to find an engine for 2022. Will Renault come to the rescue after the break up a couple of years ago? Mercedes already serving 3 teams and Ferrari as well. Actually, Ferrari would never sell engines to a super competitive team like Red Bull. Actually, given the lackluster performance of the Ferrari engine this year, not clear Red Bull would be interested.

    So, the F1 circus continues...
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    Renault has to supply them if the Bulls want......will Porsche/VW step in? How about Audi/Lambo?

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    I would not be surprised if Dietrich Mateschitz would start something new.

    To me this current political-correct-overrulled-drama-queen circus has lost the old F1 "magic and spirit".

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    F1 has always been political. No one more political than Bernie.

    Renault has already stated that they will provide engines to RB, if approached. Lots can happen between now and the start of the 2022 season.
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    It’s looking increasingly likely that Kimi is coming back for another season and will be partnered with Mick Schumacher at Alfa Romeo.
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    That would be one of the best drivers on the circuit paired with a very promising rookie. Maybe Kimi can give Mike a boost helping to develop a better car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Claire had to go , she destroyed Williams ....
    I'm sorry they've not been dismantled already on 2nd of May 1994...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golum View Post
    I'm sorry they've not been dismantled already on 2nd of May 1994...
    Can you please explain? Is this related to Senna’s accident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Is this related to Senna’s accident?
    Very much indeed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    U r clueless, subjective, and obviously don't know dick about F1......
    Hamilton not on F1’s best-ever list – Stewart | RACER

    There you go Kingtard , stewart must have read my post, great minds do think alike ...!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Golum View Post
    I'm sorry they've not been dismantled already on 2nd of May 1994...
    Agree, saved by Bernie and the corrupt FIA system , Williams was woefully complicit in the failed steering column debacle and later the coverup ..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Well I think Hamilton got screwed with 10 seconds for a ticky tack infringement....

    And talk about getting screwed...the Bulls just got the shaft from Honda. I wonder how much suck-up will be taking place to get back in with Renault...At least their motors seem to be coming into their own. I sure hope the Bulls stay in F1.
    Poor Hammy ..!


    Very talented indeed , you being able to talk with his nutsack buried tongue and cheek ...!

    Any top Driver in that Mercedes would laugh off a 10 sec penalty ..!

    Funny Thing too Bottas boasted on IG how he gave up pole for a better race tire strategy and was certain he would take victory and did ..

    Next maybe he will defy team orders instead of punting ...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Hamilton not on F1’s best-ever list – Stewart | RACER

    There you go Kingtard , stewart must have read my post, great minds do think alike ...!



    You are just plain stupid

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    Now boys, please get along. No name calling and be respectful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    You mean the car , not so much lewis is so good , IMO there are at least 2-3 drivers faster than Lewis currently ...

    Would have loved some rain myself , rain is a good equalizer , Max would certainly have been able to steal another win again...
    Well its a team sport. Without a good car, good engineering, good pit crew and the driver they would be the avg at best. It takes a whole team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Hamilton not on F1’s best-ever list – Stewart | RACER

    There you go Kingtard , stewart must have read my post, great minds do think alike ...!



    So you must have had to stand on your toes to look your boy Sir Jackie in the eye to agree on the two of you having to think alike LMAO.....

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