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    Once again stiff is demonstrating his great knowledge regarding cars....

    He can't keep straight the difference between F1 motors and NASCAR motors....

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    F1 1.6L V6 15,000rpm

    IndyCar 2.2L V6 12,000rpm

    NASCAR 5+/- L V8 9000rpm

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    I believe current F1 displacement is 1.6L. Rev limit is 15,000, but because of fuel flow regulations (100 kg/hr), I think most cars donít go much higher than 13K.

    Talks suggest the 2021 rules will raise both of those, though. Revs to 18,000.


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    Yep 1.6

    The pistons in a NASCAR motor are like coffee cans compared to a can of fruit in the other motors....

    I'd love to see the top of the F1 motors be 20,000.....

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    I couldnít agree more. It would have to help the sound of the turboíd V6ís. Iíve conceded the dream of revisiting V8/10/12ís but a high revving version of what we have now could be cool in its own way (reliability issues aside).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    I believe current F1 displacement is 1.6L. Rev limit is 15,000, but because of fuel flow regulations (100 kg/hr), I think most cars don’t go much higher than 13K.

    Talks suggest the 2021 rules will raise both of those, though. Revs to 18,000.
    Lets hope the fuel flow limit will get rised (THE limiting factor right now). Nothing will bring back the screaming sound of the NA F1 engines reving up close to 20.000 RPM though :/
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    It would be interesting to see how they deal with Turbo back Pressure at 20K ..

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    Someone finally had the balls (Ralph Schumacher) to call it like it is..Claire Williams has got to adapt or step down if Williams is to survive.

    Her "deputy team principle" title is stupid and tells it like it is...she hides in the shadow of her father's past instead of forging her own present.

    I fear Williams will close or be sold and that would be sad........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Someone finally had the balls (Ralph Schumacher) to call it like it is..Claire Williams has got to adapt or step down if Williams is to survive.

    Her "deputy team principle" title is stupid and tells it like it is...she hides in the shadow of her father's past instead of forging her own present.

    I fear Williams will close or be sold and that would be sad........
    I agree. Running a historic F1 team that spends $200 million + each year means your last name can only take you so far before people demand a return. Especially a prestigious team like Williams.


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    Firstly to save Williams , you gotta boot out whomever was involved in pulling Robert out of retirement ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    I agree. Running a historic F1 team that spends $200 million + each year means your last name can only take you so far before people demand a return. Especially a prestigious team like Williams.


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    Plenty was done to save Williams after Sennaís death, kinda hard to get by that fail ...

    Frank Williams and Patrick head is Williams , Ron for all of his negative arseole tidbits is McClaren, same as Lotus without Chapman , the companies are driven by these personalities , difficult without ..!


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Plenty was done to save Williams after Sennaís death, kinda hard to get by that fail ...

    Frank Williams and Patrick head is Williams , Ron for all of his negative arseole tidbits is McClaren, same as Lotus without Chapman , the companies are driven by these personalities , difficult without ..!


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    Iím not sure I understand. Are you saying Claire Williams is doing a sufficient job?


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    No ,

    Im saying she cant be Patrick Head and Frank Williams , Im saying she Is not the driving force behind Williams, very difficult shoes for Claire to fill ..

    Speaking of Fail , Robert K is back , enuff said ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    No ,

    Im saying she cant be Patrick Head and Frank Williams , Im saying she Is not the driving force behind Williams, very difficult shoes for Claire to fill ..

    Speaking of Fail , Robert K is back , enuff said ...
    I didnít say she had to be her dad or anyone else; just that she isnít getting it done. I agree that there are big shoes to fill, but she just isnít cutting it. And for that, I think she should step aside.


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    I dont know how much of the blame is Claire’s , Paddy lowe was the Messiah from AMG to make things happen , both cars under his tenure are outright disasters, they took money for Kubicka seat which is not a good situation in itself , so , hard for me to say or agree if she should or shouldn't step down ..


    Are Paddy Lowe fails Claires fault? did she fire him too late ? ... This is bigger than just Claire IMO ..

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    You can have one bad car. But two horrid cars in a row ... that is beyound bad for such a respected team (that was considered 3rd fastest after Ferrari / Merc just 4 years ago!).

    We do not know what is happening inside Wiliams. But from the rate engineers are leaving the team the situation inside the company must be as bad. And here I think Claire as a CEO is at fault.

    They need new management to turn things around, show some promise and stop people quitting.
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    Two bad cars have nothing to do with Claire, Paddy lowe can attest to that , Lowe’s exit was mostly due to illegal parts on the car as per FIA , so not only a dud but an illegal dud ..

    Lowe did not leave , he was sent packing ....

    Easy to see the 19 car being a dud after 2018 model, due to the follow thru process . This year will most likely be a wash, as Williams will need a completly new chassis for 2020..

    Totally expect the 2019 car to be a rolling test bed ..




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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    You can have one bad car. But two horrid cars in a row ... that is beyound bad for such a respected team (that was considered 3rd fastest after Ferrari / Merc just 4 years ago!).

    We do not know what is happening inside Wiliams. But from the rate engineers are leaving the team the situation inside the company must be as bad. And here I think Claire as a CEO is at fault.

    They need new management to turn things around, show some promise and stop people quitting.
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    CW is not the CEO, she's the Deputy Chief Administrator.....ie she's the face that carries out other's orders

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    I expect Williams to have difficulty getting sponsors for 2020 if this year continues like last year. Without adequate funding, the team will either be sold or cease to exist. Smedley’s departure at the end of last season was a no-confidence vote for this year.
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    Add Wood and De Beer names to that list , under Paddy lowe , the engineering and design team has been decimated ..

    Lowe is coming from AMG, Williams run AMG power plants, the deal to run mercedes gearboxes was nixed in favor of their ally box where mercedes own box is carbon fibre ...

    I can see Williams not wanting to close their gearbox dept and layoff those workers , once lost you cant regain ...


    we will see ...



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    IMO if they want to stay competive, they have to switch to Mercedes gearboxes. There is just no other way at this point.
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    An F1 legend passed today. RIP Niki

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    Vettle's Lauda tribute helmet looks awesome......

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    the only interest I have in watching the horsey cars from fiat is Leclerc. I predict he's going to show vettel a clean set of heels more often than not. Im also looking forward to the wheel banging between Max and Charles--one could hope. I'll keep my championship prediction to myself until the Chinese or azerbaijan gp.
    Its been slow around here so here goes...I don't often quote myself but how can I resist (gloating?) who can ignore the fact LeClerc out qualified Vettel TEN TIMES in a row. Clearly, Leclerc is the faster driver (at least over a single lap).

    The horsey cars have found speed the later part of this season which is a pleasant surprise, maybe we'll have some real on-track drama before the season is up. Ham will be WC this year, no doubt about that.

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    It has been slow.

    And the races are boring. The top 3 or 4 after 5-10 laps are still at the top at the finish line.

    LeClerc & Verstappen could bring it back - at least make it interesting.
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    The races are almost predictable. Boring,
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    No love for Ham? the year is effectively over with a few races left, both drivers and constructors championships have been decided...and please don't post to this thread if you're one of the F1 is "boring" or "predictable" crowd. We heard you. Sheesh

    Nico did a great job of extracting the awesome atmosphere of an F1 weekend...the production quality of his channel keeps improving, like, exponentially:
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    I always enjoy the COTA track; onboard video is always fun but especially here, for me.

    The finish with Bottas and Ham was exciting this year. I was pleasantly surprised Maxís Red Bull put up as much of a fight up front as he did.

    In a general note, Iím really hopeful the 2021 regs increase the competitiveness both in the standings and within each race. Itís disappointing the car weight went up again. Small, and light cars that can be wheel-to-wheel is a solid recipe formula for fun racing. Will Ham claim his 7th before the regulation overhaul? It certainly looks plausible, barring any reliability issues next year. Bottas canít consistently hang with him, as it stands now.


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    Nico vids very nice

    Can't help but have the feeling Hamilton could have won the race but it was contrived for Botas to win but who really knows......

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    Lewis is a special talent driving the best car on the grid for a team that has proven to be superior at innovation, reliability and strategy.

    I thought Michael Schumacher records would last for a long time. Lewis is quickly moving to surpass 7 world titles and 91 GP wins.

    Lastly, for the last 25 years, I have been watching F1 and attending some races. My favorite team has been Ferrari. I had high expectations for this year and, while this year’s car has been better, Vettel is not extracting the best out of the car, reliability has not been perfect and team strategy has been lacking. The one pleasing surprise, LeClerc.

    And, yes, nice video by Nico.
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    OK lets really get to it:

    Nico is a douche and lucked out into his title. He knew it and didn't return. A lucky opportunist.....

    Schumacher was a dirty driver with no elan at all. An arrogant prick. Fuck him....

    Ferrari...they constantly make dumb decisions. Drivers, managers, principles... If they didn't have the veto vote they would be nowhere. They do have an opportunity with LeClerc. But I say he's screwed by all the red baggage

    Hamilton..a true sportsman. If he wasn't on top right now F1 would be like Indy Cars. Like who cares........

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    Well I guess my post above was spot on regarding Ferrari....

    It's great to see Ferrari in the state they are in. They are so arrogant... And goodbye as well as Vettel. He deserved to get the shaft. I sure hope he's done and doesn't take someone else's drive. Spoiled, and lost what little edge he had at the Bulls. Will go down as the most overrated multi champion ever....

    And Lewis...possibly the best driver ever. Total class guy. Merc could sweep this season. They are smarter than the rest by a magnitude and deserving of their position. Gotta love how Horner and others are trying to get rules changed to reel them in. I guess everything changes when the shoe is on the other foot.

    Go Mercedes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post

    Hamilton..a true sportsman. If he wasn't on top right now F1 would be like Indy Cars. Like who cares........
    easy there King boy, I bet AJ could still kick your butt !! and for the record Indy cars has one of 'the' classiest drivers in all of motor sports... Scott Dixon !
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    Oh please, Scott Dixon?? What has he done for anyone but himself? U obviously are myopic and clueless regarding motorsport....

    And, just to help u out, this is a F1 thread....

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    Formula one is returning to Portugal.
    23 e 25 October. Portimao / Algarve


    Probably in October there will still be a lot of sun and good weather in the Algarve!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    easy there King boy, I bet AJ could still kick your butt !! and for the record Indy cars has one of 'the' classiest drivers in all of motor sports... Scott Dixon !
    Who can forget AJ's "classy" move when he bitch slapped Arie Luyendyk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Formula one is returning to Portugal.
    23 e 25 October. Portimao / Algarve


    Probably in October there will still be a lot of sun and good weather in the Algarve!
    We love the Algarve...I wish I could be there this year....Portimao looks like an amazing circuit.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    Oh please, Scott Dixon?? What has he done for anyone but himself? U obviously are myopic and clueless regarding motorsport....
    awe, you're my hero !

    And, just to help u out, this is a F1 thread....
    I'm well aware of that genius and if your brain engaged properly you would have seen that my response was to the 'Indy Car' remark you made.

    as for Hamilton being the best, F1 perhaps and in the modern era. Are you even old enough to know who AJ Foyt is ? My last F1 race I attended was Oct of '72, Watkins Glen (Jackie Stewart), didn't make it back for the infamous 'Bog' burning of the bus in '74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    awe, you're my hero !



    I'm well aware of that genius and if your brain engaged properly you would have seen that my response was to the 'Indy Car' remark you made.

    as for Hamilton being the best, F1 perhaps and in the modern era. Are you even old enough to know who AJ Foyt is ? My last F1 race I attended was Oct of '72, Watkins Glen (Jackie Stewart), didn't make it back for the infamous 'Bog' burning of the bus in '74
    I take it you weren't at WG in '73 when Cevert lost his life? Jackie Stewart had already decided to retire before qualifying, Francois' death was the final straw. it would have been Jackie's 100th GP had he raced that weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    I take it you weren't at WG in '73 when Cevert lost his life? Jackie Stewart had already decided to retire before qualifying, Francois' death was the final straw. it would have been Jackie's 100th GP had he raced that weekend.
    That is correct, I was lucky in '72 to attend (sophomore in College) but unable in '73 and '74, although my spirit was there in the 'Bog' !

    Attend the IMSA race regularly , well not his year, along with Vintage weekend in Sept. Got to drive my '70 T/A Challenger around the track in '72, $20, signed a waiver and away you went !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    That is correct, I was lucky in '72 to attend (sophomore in College) but unable in '73 and '74, although my spirit was there in the 'Bog' !

    Attend the IMSA race regularly , well not his year, along with Vintage weekend in Sept. Got to drive my '70 T/A Challenger around the track in '72, $20, signed a waiver and away you went !
    now you're making me jealous. Watching a sports car or vintage CAN-AM race at the Glenn is on my bucket list, so is a '70 T/A 'Cuda like this one:

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    now you're making me jealous. Watching a sports car or vintage CAN-AM race at the Glenn is on my bucket list, so is a '70 T/A 'Cuda like this one:

    Great vid, thanks for sharing ! As for the T/A that would have been a Challenger, the Plymouth 'Cuda had the AAR designation. Same drive train although the Challenger was a slightly bigger car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    awe, you're my hero !



    I'm well aware of that genius and if your brain engaged properly you would have seen that my response was to the 'Indy Car' remark you made.

    as for Hamilton being the best, F1 perhaps and in the modern era. Are you even old enough to know who AJ Foyt is ? My last F1 race I attended was Oct of '72, Watkins Glen (Jackie Stewart), didn't make it back for the infamous 'Bog' burning of the bus in '74
    OK"genius" (LMAO) ..the Indy Car comment was regarding the series, not the drivers...really, read and comprehend correctly or go away....

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    Paraphrasing here:

    A racer dies and is in heaven.
    He's in the grandstand at the track with another driver next to him
    He looks down and sees a car go by. The driver's helmet is red-orange, just like AJ has always worn.
    "Oh my god" he says to the guy next to him. "Not AJ too"....
    No the guy says. That's God trying to believe he can drive like AJ........!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    ..the Indy Car comment was regarding the series, not the drivers...
    Ok, what wrong with the Indy Car series ?
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    Iíve been a huge F1 fan for a long time, actually most motor sports, but F1 now is so fíng boring nowadays. Watch the first opening lap, turn it off, watch the last couple laps itís the same.

    Lewis is fantastic and Iíll admit i havenít watched a lot lately and Iím sure there have been some good races, but compared to yrs ago, itís a BIG yawn IMHO.

    Moto GP, Isle of Man, superbike and the like - holy crap Iím on the edge of my seat the entire time. The first race a couple weeks ago with Marc Marquez leading, then crashing twice, starting from the rear and almost taking 2nd place, never seen anything like it.

    Sport car GT, LMP1+2, touring car, Indy etc. all seem to have way more excitement.

    Dunno and sorry to go a bit OT, but F1 has lost its mystique and allure, to me anyway. Def not like it used be (as most things) but seems to be less about racing
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    Re: Formula One

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Ok, what wrong with the Indy Car series ?
    U can start with Tony George era

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    U can start with Tony George era
    agreed, thankfully we're past that now.
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