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November 25, 2020, 01:23 PM #1Junior Member
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Looking for suggestions for speakers to match perfectly to a Luxman L210
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November 25, 2020, 05:51 PM #2Super Moderator
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LUXMAN L-210
SPECIFICATIONS
Power output: 45 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)
Frequency response: 10Hz to 100kHz
Total harmonic distortion: 0.02%
Input sensitivity: 1.8mV (MM), 160mV (line)
Signal to noise ratio: 90dB (MM), 107dB (line)
Dimensions: 453 x 317 x 111mm
Weight: 6.7kgWharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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November 25, 2020, 06:20 PM #3Senior Member
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More info Ken, room size, listening preferences, source, WAF considerations(if applicable) and the list goes on ........
Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 25, 2020, 06:35 PM #4Junior Member
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The Warfe and the klipsh were on my hopeful list I am glad to see you also suggest them.Thankyou for helping
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November 25, 2020, 06:36 PM #5Super Moderator
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Remember, older receivers don’t do too well with lower ohm speakers. I think below 4 ohms is out of the question. 6-8 ohms would be much more comfortable for the amplifier.
Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 25, 2020, 06:39 PM #6Junior Member
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My room is approx 14x21ft
Hard walls.....hard floors...minimal furniture
I will be powering the speakers with a Luxman L210.....Luxman tuner L230...likely a Dual turntable yet to be found
I am sorry I do not know what WAF is
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November 25, 2020, 06:42 PM #7Super Moderator
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WAF is Wife (or significant other) Acceptance Factor. Lots of partners don't like ugly speakers or ones placed properly in the room.
Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 25, 2020, 06:42 PM #8Senior Member
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Hi ken, WAF (wife acceptance factor)
Originally Posted by Ken
as for your room, it appears by your description to be on the 'bright' side, acoustic treating will be in order IMO. It's large enough for a pair of towers, what's your budget ?Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 25, 2020, 07:28 PM #9Junior Member
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Excellent good to know
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November 25, 2020, 07:29 PM #10Junior Member
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Well ....budget for now will have to be 600 to 900
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November 25, 2020, 07:30 PM #11Junior Member
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WAF! Hahahaha
Love it
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November 25, 2020, 07:33 PM #12Junior Member
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Anyone want to comment on using Klipsh R620F tower speakers matched to a Luxman L210
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November 25, 2020, 07:44 PM #13Senior Member
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I had a pair of B&W 685 S2 speakers when I started my journey in audio back in 2014. Kept those for a couple of years and was always impressed with them. I believe they are 6 ohm nominal speakers. Paired with a set of stands, you are looking at between 800-900 dollars (US). I've never really been a fan of the B&W sound (mostly because of the overly bright tweeters), but these weren't particularly aggressive.
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November 25, 2020, 07:48 PM #14Super Moderator
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Should be a great match. Originally Posted by Ken
Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 25, 2020, 09:07 PM #15Senior Member
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well, you asked for opinions so here goes........ given the 'brightness' of your room(acoustically speaking) that speaker would not be on my radar. IMO, save some $$, stretch your budget and think something on the used market perhaps ? Originally Posted by Ken
for the $$ value in speakers ELAC always seems to be mentioned oftenCheers ! …. Dave
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November 25, 2020, 11:50 PM #16Senior Member
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How much do you want to spend? Originally Posted by Ken
My thinking is that you are trying to build a system around a component that should not be your top priority.
IMO the top priority should be your speakers/room.
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November 26, 2020, 10:59 AM #17Senior Member
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check post #10 Originally Posted by nicoff
agreed, sage advice, but if it something I think the Op already has then so be it .......My thinking is that you are trying to build a system around a component that should not be your top priority.
agreed again !IMO the top priority should be your speakers/room.Cheers ! …. Dave
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November 26, 2020, 12:09 PM #18Junior Member
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I picked up the Luxman at a great price and want to put it to good use...you are correct tho I am trying now to match a speaker set to it
Reverse order but it is the way it is
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November 26, 2020, 01:12 PM #19Super Moderator
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No problem. A fairly efficient, higher ohm speaker like you mentioned should be fine. If the room is a little bright (after sufficient break in of speakers and run in of the amp), a few wall absorbers or treatment will be just wonderful. Use what you have, enjoy the music and look forward to the future to see how far you want to take it. I bet the Luxman, if in good shape, should be excellent. Don’t over think it. Originally Posted by Ken
Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 26, 2020, 02:17 PM #20Senior Member
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I would give the Elac Reference Debut a listen. Either the floorstanders or bookshelf models. I heard them at an audio show last year with Andrew Jones the designer talking about them. Great sounding speaker. Also consider B&W 606, 604's, Elac UniFi's and some of the Monitor Audio Bronze and Silver series.
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Everyone here has contributed greatly to my quest of determining a good speaker set.That last bit of advice to not over think it....made sense.I am having a fun time learning the very basics of hi/fi systems but will let my ears be the final judge.
Going this weekend to listen to brand new Klipsch RF3 II's.....made in the USA.Will power them with my new to me Luxman L210😁😁 to test and see if I like what I hear
Cheers!
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November 27, 2020, 11:58 AM #22Super Moderator
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Awesome
Please keep us updated as to what you think about the setup.
I don’t remember but I think the Luxman has tone controls, that might help tweak the sound a little more to your liking. But please don’t overdo it.Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 27, 2020, 12:04 PM #23Super Moderator
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Here’s a little video but please don’t stack components like this.
Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 27, 2020, 12:11 PM #24Junior Member
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Great video.....once the units are home I will give thoughts although I am a newbie other than what my ears tell me.
Hoping to hear notes and pieces to the music and albums I have never heard before with a clear and quality system
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Go give these a listen. Originally Posted by Ken
Acoustic Energy AE300
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"I am a newbie other than what my ears tell me."
Ken, you are in an enviable position. Your mind hasn't yet been polluted by all of the audiophile-this, reference quality-that chatter. (Most of which won't necessarily apply to you and your preferences at all.)
Keep building the system according to your budget - and more importantly, according to your ears - and you'll enjoy this hobby very much.
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I will close this thread by say thanks to everyone.
The Luxman amp and the Klipsh RF3's are an amazing match.
While enjoying this new journey I am on if creating a pleasing sound system to my ears I will be now on the hunt for "that " special turntable
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December 2, 2020, 01:38 PM #28Super Moderator
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Congratulations Ken. Very glad you are happy.
Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Avantgarde Duo XD, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated.
Conrad Johnson GAT2, Misho Myronov Wooden preamp.
Misho Myronov Wooden amp, First Watt SIT-3 (x 2 - one as backup), Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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