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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    It would describe it as if I was listening to a horn speaker. Perhaps it has to do with the combination of horn/ high Sensitivity.
    This is not a definition. What does the horn speaker do so that it is "as if you were listening to a horn speaker"?

    Do you mean by "jump factor" vividness, dynamics?
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by the professor View Post
    Magico gets close - but only their M series
    this ain’t Mágicos strength at all. Sorry to disagree.
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    What does the horn speaker do so that it is "as if you were listening to a horn speaker"?
    It looks like a horn. The same way an electrostatic is "transparent", etc, etc, etc, etc. The ears only CPU has other hard wired sensors.
    You see?

    p.s. the typical coaxial speaker is very much a dynamic driver....horn

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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    This is not a definition. What does the horn speaker do so that it is "as if you were listening to a horn speaker"?

    Do you mean by "jump factor" vividness, dynamics?
    Yes, well I'm looking for vivid, dynamics and life in a Cone (have to watch my words with AJ on this thread; lol) speaker.

    Something that I don't have to crack the volume for it come alive.

    I know there probably isn't one ideal speaker but, just looking to what what other members recommend.

    Perhaps I should consider horns?

    But, I didn't think they would be a me a good match for my electronics (Spectral)

    I didn't want to swap both.

    I'm considering either swapping the loudspeaker but, keeping electronics OR

    Upgrading to Monoblock amps from Stereo and keep existing speakers.

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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    this ain’t Mágicos strength at all. Sorry to disagree.
    Sorry to disagree, Keith, but you don't have enough experience with Magico (while you do have more experience than me on other things).
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    Sorry to disagree, Keith, but you don't have enough experience with Magico (while you do have more experience than me on other things).
    So, we have a Magico M2 owner on this thread saying they are indeed easier to drive and come alive more so than the Q and S models.

    Another member S5kmk2 owner is also looking for something similar as myself.

    Al,

    What is your experience regarding this?

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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    Sorry to disagree, Keith, but you don't have enough experience with Magico (while you do have more experience than me on other things).
    So are we measuring how many hours you both have spent listening to Magico speakers at shows, dealers, and friends? Who is keeping the log books so we can see who has the most experience?
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    So, we have a Magico M2 owner on this thread saying they are indeed easier to drive and come alive more so than the Q and S models.

    Another member S5kmk2 owner is also looking for something similar as myself.

    Al,

    What is your experience regarding this?
    Next to having had regular exposure to the M Project, I have heard stunning, extraordinary dynamics on piano and orchestral music from the Q3.

    Things always depend on the entire system context and speaker set-up.

    The perceived dynamics of Magico speakers are very set-up dependent, whereas my own Reference 3A monitors sound boldly vivid and dynamic almost regardless of where you position them in the room.
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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Something that I don't have to crack the volume for it come alive.

    Perhaps I should consider horns?

    But, I didn't think they would be a me a good match for my electronics (Spectral)
    You should consider whatever sounds best to you, regardless of whether horn, direct radiator, panel, etc.
    At low volume. That's not a terribly difficult scenario to recreate demo wise, at home, dealer, show, etc.
    Not sure what model Spectral, but you most likely have far more than enough power to recreate low volumes, regardless of speaker type and sensitivity.
    Your ears, like every other human (regardless of beliefs), follows equal loudness contours, which means you hear things differently at low volumes, vs mid or high volumes. What audiophiles often seek, since they shun things like tone and worse, "loudness" controls (which were once popular when common sense prevailed), are speakers with built in loudness curves.
    I.e., tilted up bass and treble native response. That will definitely sound better at low volume! Maybe not so much at mid-high. YMMV.

    Side note, I've exhibited dozens of audio shows, meets, etc.
    I'd guesstimate 1 in 1000 audiophile attendee actually bring their own tracks to listen and evaluate systems (including loudspeakers) with. These are the very same folks asking questions like yours here.
    Somehow they are able to determine certain attributes when there are 50+ variables, unfamiliar equipment, connections, power, sources, rooms, etc, etc....with unfamiliar tracks.
    IOW, the one constant/reference: how particular very familiar tracks sound to you at home, say at low volume, on ones own system, are not used, in totally unfamiliar environment evals. Go figure.

    Good luck with your search.

    cheers,

    AJ

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    Re: What are some dymanic driver/non-horn speakers that have that "jump" factor?

    To follow up on my message yesterday and some of the subsequent posts about magicos...we must keep in mind that if the recording doesn't have the dynamic range there won't be much jump to speak of anyways. When the recording calls for it the magicos can show the dynamic range vs. recordings that are victims of the loudness wars. However, as much as I love these speakers this is one of their weaker points comparatively...or rather, it takes alot of class a power to coax that snap out of them. An expensive endeavor no matter how you cut it.

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