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    What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Lots of chat about Amps, wattage, sensitivity, ohms

    It seems Harbeth is generally a recommended and good match with Luxman.

    I am still planning to order a Luxman 505uxII in December and wondering what other speakers are a good match. In the mean time, I will try matching it with my current speakers, Clearfield Continentals, Dynaudio 82s, and the ones that will probably sound the best but least expensive, JM Labs Tantal 509s.

    I have seen Tekton, Zu, Omega and a few others mentioned. Looking for $5K and under suggestions.

    I know Mike suggests the model a few steps up from the 505, but reading between the lines, the 100wpc (actually 115) should be enough for many other speakers with decent efficiency.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Fyne and Luxman is good. B&W and Luxman is good.


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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Lu Kang Audio..... These sounding pretty darn good @ RMAF.

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    The new JBL L100 sounds really good, it has an open and lively sound character.

    I never could get my Zu to play very low, a sub would be a must and that super tweeter became too much for me even with my CJ gear. I had a Soul Super Fly. Super low distortion, they played louder than I could stand and remain clear as can be.

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Reynaud should work well with Luxman. Bob Neill prefers them with Blue Circle but Gilbert shut that company down last year. They have several models that should work under your limit. I run the Abscissa Jubilee with the Audia Flight FL Three S integrated with similar specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Reynaud should work well with Luxman. Bob Neill prefers them with Blue Circle but Gilbert shut that company down last year. They have several models that should work under your limit. I run the Abscissa Jubilee with the Audia Flight FL Three S integrated with similar specs.
    i have the JMR Offrande Supreme V2’s and they are excellent, super-imagers.

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    I agree Rob. I owned Offrande V3's from 2003-2007 which were the pair that Bob reviewed and that were shipped direct from the US distributor at the time and purchased through Anthony Perrotta. When I contacted Bob back in the Spring it was my intention to buy that last pair of Offrande's ever made that were in the possession of the Canadian distributor. From our conversations he convinced me to try the new Abscissa Jubilee instead and I have not been disappointed. They take up the same floor space as the Offrande's with their integrated stands and give you more cabinet volume plus a revised AMT tweeter.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Do most Harbeth owners listen to mostly Vocalists and very minimal Instruments?

    I have been scouring Youtube for Luxman and or Harbeth Demo vids and it's like Nobody listens to a full band of Electric Music.
    All I find is Acoustic Guitar, Vocals and Piano, or Vocals and very little actual music.

    Will Harbeths play Rock, Jazz, Fusion as well as it does for Vocals.

    Seems like only a small % of Audiophiles actually listen to Music as opposed to Female Vocals, or maybe just most Demos because they are not very taxing of any speaker or amp.

    Either way, it doesn't do a potential customer any good if we can't hear some Real Music. (I know Mike posted a few vids of systems playing actual music a few shows ago, but that is far from the norm)

    Just because a speaker can playback Adelle doesnt mean it will excel playing Voodoo Chile or Bruford or King Crimson. Not everyone listens to Adelle.

    Ah just venting from frustration as I have nowhere to Demo Harbeths and was hoping for more on Youtube.

    Just emailed Ultra Systems, part of the Cable Company in New Hope PA to see if they have anything to demo. Next closest is Delaware, Overture.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Depends on the model Brian. From my experience, the SHL5+ can be quite dynamic as well as the 40.2. The 30.2s I prefer for Jazz, Blue Grass, some light classical (a wonderful speaker) but not quite for rock. All of these would do a nice job with Eva, Diana, Norah, Melody, Allison....

    BTW, as much as I like Adelle, I have yet to hear a good quality recording of her music, unfortunately.

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    I admit I'm a fan of super-efficient speakers (Klipsch Heritage), and I've paired my 509X with La Scala IIs, Heresy IIIs, and Monitor Audio Gold 200s. For rock and roll like you're describing, the Heresy IIIs paired with an excellent subwoofer would be a perfect match and you're all-in at $5K for both. I am not as much a fan of the Forte IIIs, I did not find them as musically engaging as either the La Scala IIs or Heresy IIIs. My Monitor Audio Gold 200s (also right at your price range, sans subwoofer) sound great with the 509X as well, but they are much less efficient and therefore I think suffer a bit in speed and microdynamics. They are more resolving than the Heresy IIIs but less so than the La Scala IIs.

    Here's a short video of the 509X and Klipsch La Scala IIs (with the Rhumba Extreme) - while not Led Zeppelin, it's a Manu Katché drum solo from Dominic Miller's latest release, and I think it's a good demo of the pairing.

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Did you check the Lu Kang out?

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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Do most Harbeth owners listen to mostly Vocalists and very minimal Instruments?

    I have been scouring Youtube for Luxman and or Harbeth Demo vids and it's like Nobody listens to a full band of Electric Music.
    All I find is Acoustic Guitar, Vocals and Piano, or Vocals and very little actual music.

    Will Harbeths play Rock, Jazz, Fusion as well as it does for Vocals.

    Seems like only a small % of Audiophiles actually listen to Music as opposed to Female Vocals, or maybe just most Demos because they are not very taxing of any speaker or amp.

    Either way, it doesn't do a potential customer any good if we can't hear some Real Music. (I know Mike posted a few vids of systems playing actual music a few shows ago, but that is far from the norm)

    Just because a speaker can playback Adelle doesnt mean it will excel playing Voodoo Chile or Bruford or King Crimson. Not everyone listens to Adelle.

    Ah just venting from frustration as I have nowhere to Demo Harbeths and was hoping for more on Youtube.

    Just emailed Ultra Systems, part of the Cable Company in New Hope PA to see if they have anything to demo. Next closest is Delaware, Overture.
    So we had harbeth shl5plus here not too long ago , my son who loves rock music called them boring beths or trash beths as they did not do that deep rock that he liked , you know that drop thing when arnaud van beuren does his thing . we replaced them with tannoy eaton legacy , same size speaker and it DOES do rock BIG time . tremendous bass and very non fatiguing . As much as i love the shl5plus they don`t do rock like tannoys !
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Do most Harbeth owners listen to mostly Vocalists and very minimal Instruments?

    I have been scouring Youtube for Luxman and or Harbeth Demo vids and it's like Nobody listens to a full band of Electric Music.
    All I find is Acoustic Guitar, Vocals and Piano, or Vocals and very little actual music.

    Will Harbeths play Rock, Jazz, Fusion as well as it does for Vocals.

    Seems like only a small % of Audiophiles actually listen to Music as opposed to Female Vocals, or maybe just most Demos because they are not very taxing of any speaker or amp.

    Either way, it doesn't do a potential customer any good if we can't hear some Real Music. (I know Mike posted a few vids of systems playing actual music a few shows ago, but that is far from the norm)

    Just because a speaker can playback Adelle doesnt mean it will excel playing Voodoo Chile or Bruford or King Crimson. Not everyone listens to Adelle.

    Ah just venting from frustration as I have nowhere to Demo Harbeths and was hoping for more on Youtube.

    Just emailed Ultra Systems, part of the Cable Company in New Hope PA to see if they have anything to demo. Next closest is Delaware, Overture.
    See post above. When I set up the Harbeth’s, rock isn’t what comes to mind to really show them off. They are superb with acoustic guitar, piano, female vocals. I do have a client who enjoys them with rock however. So What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    For more rocking, check out Fyne. Dynamic and great tight bass.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    I would love to hear the Luxman with my PMC twenty5 23's.....
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    I found a place under 2 hours drive that has Luxman, Harbeth and ProAc. I plan to pay them a visit in the next month or 2. BEK Audio in Allentown PA.

    After talking to Bob Backert and mentioning my plan to purchase the Luxman 505, he had 2 comments.
    1- Why don't you just buy a Rhumba?
    2- You will be giving something up leaving the VAC pre behind for the Luxman.

    Although my VAC is 30 years old, and now has some odd staticky sound you can hear when no music is being played (may be the old tube sockets), the sound is still great with both my Stratos Amp and my (getting repaired by Backert) Counterpoint Amp, also 30 years old.

    I am really apprehensive to make the change only to find out after the fact that I lose SQ as opposed to gaining it. The place told me to bring my Gear to compare, but pulling it all out of the rack and humping it with me is not too practical. The plan I came up with, is to put my JM Labs bookshelf speakers in my main system and get a good listen and feel for the sound with my VAC in place, then take the Speakers with me to demo the Luxman. Obviously there will be room differences but I should at least be able to get an idea whether I like what the Luxman does, or if I just keep using the VAC until it dies. It is currently all stock, but I know Bob Backert would love to Mod it for me. He currently has my Counterpoint in his shop to repair for me in his available time.

    I really want all the features of a new Integrated, but I don't want to go backwards in SQ.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    A new i170iQ is really the answer. You retain that great VAC sound and gain all the modern technology, such as the iQ auto bias.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Do most Harbeth owners listen to mostly Vocalists and very minimal Instruments?

    I have been scouring Youtube for Luxman and or Harbeth Demo vids and it's like Nobody listens to a full band of Electric Music.
    All I find is Acoustic Guitar, Vocals and Piano, or Vocals and very little actual music.

    Will Harbeths play Rock, Jazz, Fusion as well as it does for Vocals.

    Seems like only a small % of Audiophiles actually listen to Music as opposed to Female Vocals, or maybe just most Demos because they are not very taxing of any speaker or amp.

    Either way, it doesn't do a potential customer any good if we can't hear some Real Music. (I know Mike posted a few vids of systems playing actual music a few shows ago, but that is far from the norm)

    Just because a speaker can playback Adelle doesnt mean it will excel playing Voodoo Chile or Bruford or King Crimson. Not everyone listens to Adelle.

    Ah just venting from frustration as I have nowhere to Demo Harbeths and was hoping for more on Youtube.

    Just emailed Ultra Systems, part of the Cable Company in New Hope PA to see if they have anything to demo. Next closest is Delaware, Overture.

    Brian, when it became apparent I was simply not going to find a dealer that stocked Harbeth speakers and the amps I was interested in without traveling I finally bit the bullet and booked a one day visit to Suncoast Audio. It was the best thing I could've done to answer all my questions. I traveled from Iowa to Sarasota. I wouldn't think Bucks County, PA would be much farther. Highly recommend Suncoast Audio.


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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Tom -

    Glad it worked out. Mike has an excellent selection of equipment. Moreover, since he works on an appointment basis, the entire store (3 listening rooms) is practically available for the visiting customer. Lastly, there is no sales pressure but honest and unbiased perspectives.

    Money and time well spent. If one is going to spend thousands of $ for stereo equipment and, specially speakers, spending a few hundred $ for a short trip to audition is well worth the investment.
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    Re: What other Speakers for Luxman besides Harbeth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Tom -

    Glad it worked out. Mike has an excellent selection of equipment. Moreover, since he works on an appointment basis, the entire store (3 listening rooms) is practically available for the visiting customer. Lastly, there is no sales pressure but honest and unbiased perspectives.

    Money and time well spent. If one is going to spend thousands of $ for stereo equipment and, specially speakers, spending a few hundred $ for a short trip to audition is well worth the investment.

    Agree 100%!!

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