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    I had a nice conversation with Greg from Volti Audio yesterday. I have been thinking about getting a pair of either the Rival's (15" woofer) or Razz's (12" woofer) for my rather small listening room. What really drew me to the Rival is the ability to change the voicing of the speaker externally with jumpers and resistors. I was quite pleased to find out that Greg has setup the Razz so the owner can make internal changes themselves if the balance is too tilted up or down. As I understand it the midrange and tweeter come somewhat toned down to match the woofer output so you can crank them up a bit or throttle them back, a very nice feature. It was agreed the Rival's 15" woofers would probably be too much for my small room so I am looking very hard at the Razz. The build quality is outstanding on all of his speakers and he uses pro audio drivers which are very dynamic and durable. He gives a 1 year warranty (longer if you are nice). He says "we don't blow drivers." I responded "how about the passengers?" We both got a good laugh, I guess I will sleep on it another day or so. Cheers all.

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    They look cool in the nicer wood veneer. What finish are looking to get?
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    Hahahaha, funny. Friends and I have attended a couple of audio shows where Greg attended. We sat mesmerized listening to his speakers. I don’t think you can go wrong and made to last a lifetime. Superb woodwork with an easy listening character. Wonderful speakers.
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    I've heard them several times over the years at AXPONA. Always a good sounding demo good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    They look cool in the nicer wood veneer. What finish are looking to get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Hahahaha, funny. Friends and I have attended a couple of audio shows where Greg attended. We sat mesmerized listening to his speakers. I don’t think you can go wrong and made to last a lifetime. Superb woodwork with an easy listening character. Wonderful speakers.
    Have you heard the Razz or his larger ones?

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    Great speakers made by a great guy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stereogeek View Post
    I had a nice conversation with Greg from Volti Audio yesterday.

    He says "we don't blow drivers." I responded "how about the passengers?" We both got a good laugh, I guess I will sleep on it another day or so. Cheers all.

    We don't blow drivers?--oh yeah really!- what's he doing here then?

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    I remember when he did that at the show. Does demonstrate the horn shape affecting the sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stereogeek View Post
    Have you heard the Razz or his larger ones?
    I’ve only heard the Vittora (spelling?) and they were beautiful. The smaller ones were not in full production at that time.
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    I own Rivals and they are incredible! In fact I recently did some adjustments with the resistors in the crossovers and changed things up a little to better reflect Greg's current voicing (I got mine in 2019).

    The only speakers I could ever see replacing them would be Vittoras but I do not feel that I am missing out in any way with the Rivals.

    I came from La Scala IIs for reference... the only thing where the LSIIs best the Rivals is of course the speed and dynamics of the folded horn woofer. Which is why the Vittora is such an end-game speaker. It's almost identical to the Rivals from the mid horn up but there's no replacement for the speed of those folded horns. They will absolutely kick start your fight or flight response.
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    I really want the Rivals but we are afraid the bass will overload my small room which is just 200 sq ft. I had to move into a small room upstairs as I was afraid the new grand kids would damage my equipment or get hurt or burned on the exposed tubes. Anyway, do you mind me asking how big your room is and how much bass slam you have? Are they off the back and side walls? Thanks again.

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    One thing the Rivals do very well (when paired with the right amplification) is low-level listening. I am thinking your space is about half the size of my room which is 29Lx16W. However I only use the half of the room for my 2 channel system. I am sitting 13' from the front wall and about 9.5' from the speakers, which are 7.5' apart. The speakers are 54" from each side wall and 64" from the front wall. I also have them on Symposium Ultra platforms. I do not feel that the bass is overpowering in anyway. I do have 2 JL e110s which are crossed over at 40Hz.

    But to give my opinion on your question, I don't think your room is going to be too small for the Rivals. They are not bass-heavy speakers although they have an imposing woofer. They are very good at lower levels and with proper placement should not be overpowering in that space. I have not heard the Razz so I don't know if they would be a better fit for your size room, but I do know the Rival is better in every way than the Razz based on specs and drivers alone.

    Here are some images of the Rivals in my room:

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    I should also emphasize that proper placement is key to the bass response. I did several StraightTalk sessions with Jim Smith to get the most out of my room... and I do have some pretty big (7") bass traps across my front wall so I may not be the best person to comment on raw bass response in a small untreated room. I guess I would defer to Greg's thoughts on that vs the Razz.
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    Thanks again for your feed back. I do have some absorption panels for the first reflection points and a few extra just in case. I also have some bass traps. However, I have not installed any of this yet. I will have to ask Greg about the specs and drivers and see if the Rival will be better overall. I will also ask about over loading the room again and if there is enough adjustment on the speakers to get the balance right, then maybe work on position to tune the bass. You have a beautiful room and system (must sound badass), love the lighting. Cheers. P.S. I would have to wait a while on the Rival, the Razz is available in a week or so. I get jonesn' for something new and gotta have it now...lol.

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    What platforms do you have under your Rivals?

    Thanks.

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    Thanks, I have been working on the room in particular for about 4 months now, after bringing a Supernait 3 into my system (moving up from a Uniti Nova which I loved) and I have worked this room to death to try and get the last bit of resolution and engagement out of the Supernait but I have decided to give in and swap out the SN3 with the PrimaLuna Evo 300. Greg is right, the Rivals love tubes... I had a Luxman MQ88-uSE when I first got the Rivals but I felt it was too polite. The Nova was just right, and logic dictated that a Supernait 3 would be a "bigger, better Nova" but that was not the case. The upside of all that experimenting is that I have had a lot of fun with placement and tuning and working with absorption and diffusion etc to really dial things in. And now I have the Evo 300 which, although not the last word in refinement, is every bit as transparent and holographic as the Luxman with a bit of the "fun" and boogie/PRaT of the Nova.

    I know you can't go wrong with either the Razz or the Rival and you are right, there is something to be said for immediate gratification LOL. However remember that more than any other component, a speaker could be a lifetime investment in your system. I would go with Greg's recommendation between the 2, he knows his speakers best, but don't be tempted to short change yourself for a quick delivery

    Best of luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar_XIII View Post
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    What platforms do you have under your Rivals?

    Thanks.
    They are Symposium Ultra platforms. Really love them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSQT View Post
    Thanks, I have been working on the room in particular for about 4 months now, after bringing a Supernait 3 into my system (moving up from a Uniti Nova which I loved) and I have worked this room to death to try and get the last bit of resolution and engagement out of the Supernait but I have decided to give in and swap out the SN3 with the PrimaLuna Evo 300. Greg is right, the Rivals love tubes... I had a Luxman MQ88-uSE when I first got the Rivals but I felt it was too polite. The Nova was just right, and logic dictated that a Supernait 3 would be a "bigger, better Nova" but that was not the case. The upside of all that experimenting is that I have had a lot of fun with placement and tuning and working with absorption and diffusion etc to really dial things in. And now I have the Evo 300 which, although not the last word in refinement, is every bit as transparent and holographic as the Luxman with a bit of the "fun" and boogie/PRaT of the Nova.

    I know you can't go wrong with either the Razz or the Rival and you are right, there is something to be said for immediate gratification LOL. However remember that more than any other component, a speaker could be a lifetime investment in your system. I would go with Greg's recommendation between the 2, he knows his speakers best, but don't be tempted to short change yourself for a quick delivery

    Best of luck!
    After another conversation with Greg I have decided on the Razz as he stated it will be the perfect fit for my room. Also, he is working on a "new" Rival and those will not be ready for a while. He believes if I position the Razz along the long wall instead of the short wall that I will get optimum performance. If I decide later that I want the new Rivals he said he will work with me. He is really fond of EL34 amps with his speakers, which are usually around 35wpc ( 2 tubes per channel ). Just by coincidence Audio Note has a EL34 amplifier kit I have been looking at for a while now, guess its time to start building again. This is fun! BTW....I really appreciate your feedback. Your system and room is top notch. Congrats.

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    That is awesome and it sounds like excellent advice... good luck and be sure to post a review when you get everything set up and dialed in!
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    Well, I got the speakers today and it was a very successful day all around. I got the speakers upstairs by myself, without incident. At 105 lbs each it was a decent workout, after I got the first one upstairs I took a short break and then got the other one up there. Luckily it was only one flight. These things are awesome paired with my OTL mono blocks, which are no longer for sale. They image great, the midrange is fantastic ( the most important to me ) and the 12" woofers match perfectly to my room as the bass balance is perfect. Most of all, they are like live music. These are musical as heck and have that jump factor that is exciting to listen to. I am also very impressed with the quality of the Red Gum veneer, they are gorgeous. Greg mirror imaged the veneer to perfection, all of the edges are perfect and every detail is top notch. They were a little "heavy" when I first fired them up so I took a Vansevers power cord and a pair of Cardas Interconnects out of the system and replaced them both with Tara Labs. I also pulled them away from the corners about an additional foot. That's all I have tweaked and they are near perfect. My hat is off to Greg at Volti for a job well done.

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    Congratulations! That is awesome that they have made such an impact on you already. They are incredible speakers. I am enjoying mine for over a year now and can't imaging switching them out for anything, period. I'm sure Greg mentioned this to you (it sounds like you have placement figured out) but as wide apart as your room will allow and substantially toed in (30º or more) so they cross about 18-20" in front of your head is ideal!
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    Congrats, sounds like expectations were exceeded.

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    I listened to them almost all day yesterday and can't say enough about them. They are efficient enough that I was able to remove 4 EL509's from each mono block so that is a lot of less heat. Now they are at 15wpc which is more than plenty. Currently I have 300b mono blocks, First Watt F6 and these OTL amps. Anyone know of a 15-30 wpc transistor amp that is smooth but doesn't run in class A? I'm trying to plan for warmer weather and trying to keep the heat down. Thanks again for the feedback.

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    It is class A but look at the Schiit Alger, not sure spelled correctly, a friend says it is supposed to be crazy good for cheap.

    Unfortunately, I have not heard one yet but Lejonklou is said to be extremely musical. Lejonklou

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    Stereogeek - I can tell you my experience with the Volti's and amps... If you are looking for a smooth running musical solid state integrated I do recommend the Naim Uniti Nova for use with the Voltis... It is however an all in one streamer/dac/amp so I don't know how that would fit in with the rest of your system. It has a very good impedance match with the Rivals. I also have experience with the Naim Supernait 3 and I can say although it is a more highly engineered all-analog integrated, it is also 80 wpc like the Nova. However it does not match as well with the impedance drop of the Rivals and so it is less than optimal match with the Rivals when compared with the Volti. The Naim Uniti Atom is their smaller all in one at only 40 wpc but it is seriously outclassed by the Rivals and not worth your time. Have you looked into any of the LTA integrateds? I know of a fellow Rival owner who is currently demo'ing a Linear Tube Audio Z10 integrated and is very impressed with the combo.
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