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    Speaker Placement

    Is the general rule of thumb to turn your speakers in so they point directly at you? Or, is it better to have them slightly turned in or out? My listening room is relatively small...about 27' x 14'. The room is so taken up by furniture and other items that they can't be moved very much. So, the speakers, for all practical purposes, only have one position to sit in.

    The speakers are about 8' apart and about 8' from my listening position (an equilateral triangle). They can be turned inward or outward (axially). But I don't have room to move them left to right very far, or forward and back. I could move them a few inches closer to each other. But I'm not sure I'd want to do that in this case. Any suggestions or recommendations? I love the sound of my system. So I'm not dissatisfied in any way. I just want to know if the sound can be improved upon.
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    Re: Speaker Placement

    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrassphile View Post
    Is the general rule of thumb to turn your speakers in so they point directly at you? Or, is it better to have them slightly turned in or out? My listening room is relatively small...about 27' x 14'. The room is so taken up by furniture and other items that they can't be moved very much. So, the speakers, for all practical purposes, only have one position to sit in.

    The speakers are about 8' apart and about 8' from my listening position (an equilateral triangle). They can be turned inward or outward (axially). But I don't have room to move them left to right very far, or forward and back. I could move them a few inches closer to each other. But I'm not sure I'd want to do that in this case. Any suggestions or recommendations? I love the sound of my system. So I'm not dissatisfied in any way. I just want to know if the sound can be improved upon.
    It all depends on the speaker design. For yours with that super tweeter, aim the tweeter at your shoulders. A laser can really help.

    A wide dispersion tweeter like the B&W, Kharma, etc do best with more toe out.


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    Re: Speaker Placement

    Thanks, Mike, I'll give that a try.
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    Re: Speaker Placement

    As Mike said speaker design for sure comes into play. For me I like the tweeter intersection to occur behind my head 3-4 ft (Revel Studio 2's)
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    Re: Speaker Placement

    Holy smokes, Mike!! What a difference that minute movement made??! I aimed the speakers (super tweeters) directly at my left and right shoulders. I had them pointed directly at my ears. Definitely better slightly toed out. Thank you!

    My system just keeps sounding better and better. It's breaking in and opening up beautifully. These Harbeth Super HL 5+ Anniversaries are just incredible speakers. NOTHING gets by them. Those speakers are so true. The super tweeters are much smoother than you might expect. Not strident at all. They're really brimming with the "magic juice," LOL!! They're also perfect for the strings and horns and acoustic music (bluegrass and jazz) I listen to. The Harbeths are so alive. Just the right amount of open-ness and top end. And the bass and mids.....OK, I'll shut up.
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    Re: Speaker Placement

    Great to hear Tom! Happy to help.


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    Re: Speaker Placement

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    As Mike said speaker design for sure comes into play. For me I like the tweeter intersection to occur behind my head 3-4 ft (Revel Studio 2's)

    Dave, I can really hear what you're talking about with the tweeter intersection 3-4 ft behind your head. Toeing my Harbeths out slightly made quite a difference. Very noticeable.
    Amplifier: Pass Labs INT 250 integrated.

    DAC/Streamer: MSB Discrete Dual Power Supply.

    Server: Roon Nucleus with lifetime subscription.

    Speakers: Harbeth Super HL 5+ 40th Anniversary
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    Headphones/Amp: Focal Stellia phones, NAIM Uniti Atom Headphone Edition headphone amp.

    Cables: AudioQuest Rocket 88 speaker cables,
    Mackenzie interconnects.

    Speaker Stands: HiFi Man.

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    You or many others will find Jim Smith's Get Better Sound book to contain the best speaker/listening position set up methodology along with all kinds of other useful system set up information.

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