Thread: Selecting new speakers

as Calvin said, tell us more !!

we love spending other peoples money !!

Hello & welcome to AS. Additional information would help to narrow your options or target your needs.

However, you mentioned "powerful", and good sound, JBL Synthesis or HDI series might be something to look at if I may dare to throw out the first suggestion. JBL uses their Pro drivers for home application, they do sound good and with enough power can get rowdy.

Another important consideration is do you have a preference of stand mounted or floor standing speakers? Do you listen loud or at a more moderate level? What type of music is your preference?

Obviously another important consideration is what are the other components that you are going to be using the speakers with; brands, age, etc. What are your source components, i.e. CD player, digital, record player, streaming only (and if streaming which services do you subscribe to)?

You say price does not matter, but it usually does in some way. Good speakers can be gotten below $1000, some nice ones depending on design preferences at $1500-$2000... but you can spend incredible amounts on speakers.... $10,000; $80,000; $150,000; or even more... so price might be some consideration .

What type of room is this going to be? 150 SQ Meters is a big room. As big as many homes in some places.

1,614.5866 Square Feet

My whole 4 bedroom center hall colonial is 2800 SQ Feet total

Standmount speakers in a 1600 square foot room. Uh huh.


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A $350,000 budget in this sized room... and listen loud. Might be better to consider a floor standing speaker. I say this even though I am a fan of smaller stand mounted speakers.

What part of the country do you live in Lisa? There are so many possible suggestions at this point that I probably would suggested getting in touch with Mike and maybe try to arrange a visit to his store in Florida. He is one of the few dealers who actually tries to assist in picking out the right components for your personal needs. He also has lots of top notch gear available for looking at and listening to.

High End Home Audio Store | HiFi Online Luxury Audio Store
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Originally Posted by Mike

Standmount speakers in a 1600 square foot room. Uh huh.


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The whole house is less than 1,600 sq ft in San Diego. Small stand mounted SF speakers, old CAT preamp, Jadis JA-30 amps, and a Linn LP-12 stuffed into a small room.

I know what you mean. In California many of our houses have much less room .

My system is in our loft library. 14' x 14' which includes bookshelves, record racks, equipment racks, etc. Stand mount speakers work for me but if I had the sized room that Lisa is talking about then I would definitely lean towards floor standing speakers .

Magico, KEF Blades, MBL, Avantgarde, etc., depending on her use and preferences of course.

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

I know what you mean. In California many of our houses have much less room .

My system is in our loft library. 14' x 14' which includes bookshelves, record racks, equipment racks, etc. Stand mount speakers work for me but if I had the sized room that Lisa is talking about then I would definitely lean towards floor standing speakers .

My point is that there is no "Cindy" or "LisaPeters" on this forum.

Ok; not really following what you are saying then. A person (aka LisaPeters, maybe real name or not, who knows, who cares) asks a question, starts a thread. We reply and try to be helpful. I assume the question being asks is a legitimate one and we attempt to give legitimate answers. If in fact "LisaPeters" is truly trying to get a systems at a rather substantial budget and to be installed in a very substantial sized room then I stick by my recommendation to get in touch with Mr. Mike for more individualized assistance.

If you are saying it is a fake account I can't really assume this. Then again, I am rather naïve when comes to people being deceptive. Deception and lying are not in my make up. So I assume when someone starts a thread and asks a question it is a legitimate one.

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

Ok; not really following what you are saying then. A person (aka LisaPeters, maybe real name or not, who knows, who cares) asks a question, starts a thread. We reply and try to be helpful. I assume the question being asks is a legitimate one and we attempt to give legitimate answers. If in fact "LisaPeters" is truly trying to get a systems at a rather substantial budget and to be installed in a very substantial sized room then I stick by my recommendation to get in touch with Mr. Mike for more individualized assistance.

If you are saying it is a fake account I can't really assume this. Then again, I am rather naïve when comes to people being deceptive. Deception and lying are not in my make up. So I assume when someone starts a thread and asks a question it is a legitimate one.

Sometimes you have to read the questions being asked and understand if any of it really makes sense. If the name of the OP was a man's name, the questions from people responding on this thread would probably have been much different.

Originally Posted by mep

Sometimes you have to read the questions being asked and understand if any of it really makes sense. If the name of the OP was a man's name, the questions from people responding on this thread would probably have been much different.

I stumbled on the Location being USA but the room was in Meters, and a whole lot of them, just like the money.

Originally Posted by u-sound

just imagine you are a dealer in hot florida summer sweating in your shop and then she comes in and wants hi-power for 350k wuuahhh

Ha! We keep the AC at 72. It’s only when the big freight deliveries come and they drop them outside so I can break down the pallets that we sweat like crazy! But at least in January, we don’t have to freeze to death doing the same.

Lots of this doesn’t make sense but I’m keeping an eye open. I hope this doesn’t get out of hand. Thanks guys.

Originally Posted by joeinid

Lots of this doesn’t make sense but I’m keeping an eye open. I hope this doesn’t get out of hand. Thanks guys.

Agreed.


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Originally Posted by Mike

Ha! We keep the AC at 72. It’s only when the big freight deliveries come and they drop them outside so I can break down the pallets that we sweat like crazy! But at least in January, we don’t have to freeze to death doing the same.

OR shovel snow or deal with ice. The humidity is manageable.

Originally Posted by joeinid

Lots of this doesn’t make sense but I’m keeping an eye open. I hope this doesn’t get out of hand. Thanks guys.

That was my point... yes, it was certainly unusual, both budget and room size, etc. However I always try to give the benefit of doubt and believe the questions are truthful. Honestly, what exactly would be the point of the thread otherwise. To get some old guys to answer a useless question... really? This is why I attempted to direct the OP to a source where this level of gear might actually be able to be compared.

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

I stumbled on the Location being USA but the room was in Meters, and a whole lot of them, just like the money.

I simply assumed that this might be a person who moved from over seas .

And honestly, weather it is a female or male name would not make a huge difference to me in how I respond... sorry, but when I attempt to add to a thread the gender of the OP is not the main point of focus.

If she wants the speakers 3 ft apart i have a lead ...!

Originally Posted by thetubeguy1954

"IF" Lisa has $350K and such a large room she'll definitely want these Magico Ultimate speakers: Magico Loudspeakers | Ultimate Heck since they're 114dB sensitive and 16 ohms all she'll need is 3-5 watts of power! Oh shoot, I forgot the Magico Ultimate speakers are $600K. Sorry, Lisa, they're not in your budget...

It is amazing that even with that kind of budget there is still gear that may be out of reach .

IMO, IME - the best course - and likely MOST REWARDING FROM A MUSICAL ENGAGEMENT STANDPOINT - is to arrange a visit to Mike's shop - Suncoast Audio - High End Home Audio Store | HiFi Online Luxury Audio Store.

Mike is a dealer for nearly all of the top high-end audio brands. Unlike many dealers, he won't knowingly sell you something that is not one of the better choices for you.

And it's one thing to buy, it's another to have it installed. Not just delivered & hooked up, but installed to work with your room, rather than against it as often - regretfully - happens.

Originally Posted by a.wayne

If she wants the speakers 3 ft apart i have a lead ...!

Be nice!


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Either way the question is fun.

I personally would have something like the ACS30 into a good DAC, maybe compare DCS toMSB.

Then I would either go with JBL K2's driven by D'Agostino monoblocks, 2 per speaker, possibly explore other amps, Bricasti, Constellation etc. best synergy;

or, the largest Volti speakers. Not sure at this point what amp. Second thought, I'd have to compare the Volti to Sadurni, Sadurni is consistently very good.

I'd also use a subwoofer swarm in the room with either set up. Maybe JL

I just don't feel a traditional speaker would work in that size room. I have heard large Wilson's pressurize a fairly large room though.

Originally Posted by thetubeguy1954

"IF" Lisa has $350K and such a large room she'll definitely want these Magico Ultimate speakers: Magico Loudspeakers | Ultimate Heck since they're 114dB sensitive and 16 ohms all she'll need is 3-5 watts of power! Oh shoot, I forgot the Magico Ultimate speakers are $600K. Sorry, Lisa, they're not in your budget...



Thetubeguy1954 aka Tom


I'm listening to: A Paul Simon Songbook by Bill Cunliffe

Thetubeguy1954 (Tom)

Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society -- Full-range/Wide-range Drivers -- Front & Back-Loaded Horns -- High Sensitivity Speakers

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Don Sachs Custom SP14 tube Preamp
Mastersound Reference 845 SET Amp
Reference 3A Taksim Speakers

Yea one acoustical watt should get her there .....!

Originally Posted by thetubeguy1954

Hi Randy! How are you doing my friend? I pray life is treating you and your family well? My new friend John S. repaired my Mastersound Reference 845 SET amp. Now it sounds even better than when I first purchased it new in 2001! On a sad note, I had to sell the T+A Amp 8, but I actually made a small profit which helped pay some bills. On a different note --{pun definitely intended}-- it was the very fact that many people had suggested Magico speakers to Lisa that I deliberately choose the Magico Ultimate speaker! The Magico Ultimate speakers have been my $600K "If I ever hit the Lotto speakers..." since the very first time I saw them.

That became especially true for me ever since I visited Suncoast Audio a few years back now. Lukasz Fikus of Lampizator was there and demonstrated his absolutely amazing Lampizator Pacific DAC! I don't remember which Magico speakers were being used, but I remember they sounded wonderful and had more realistic sounding bass than almost every subwoofer I ever heard. I'd like to think if one of Magico's less expensive models, like their M2 --{I may be mistaken on the model number, and I mean "less expensive" compared to their Ultimate Horn speaker}-- was voiced so neutrally it allowed the Pacific DAC's glorious sonics to shine through as wonderfully as they did. I could only imagine what their Ultimate Horn model will sound like! In my new Lotto home someday...



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Thetubeguy1954 (Tom)

Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society -- Full-range/Wide-range Drivers -- Front & Back-Loaded Horns -- High Sensitivity Speakers

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YBA Genesis CD4 CDP/Transport - Snake River Audio Cottonmouth Signature power cord & custom Mike R. digital wire
Musical Paradise tube DAC - Stealth Audio M21 Super, power cord & custom Mike R. ICs
Don Sachs Custom SP14 tube Preamp -Sablon Audio Gran Corona power cord & NBS Professional ICs (custom Mike R ICs soon coming)
Mastersound Reference 845 SET Amp - Hi-Diamond 3 power cord & Snake River Audio Cottonmouth Signature speaker wires
Reference 3A Taksim Speakers

That is very interesting about the Lampi Dac. I went to a local Audiophile club in home demo of Pure Audio Project, Hattor, and Lampi. I heard music like never before and not since. (I don't get out much )

There was one track in particular played that day that blew me away. Jessica Williams - Heather from Live at Yoshi's. Basement system was a prototype Lampi Integrated. (not sure if it ever went to market) the Lampi Pacific, and they were rolling tubes every hour, and the Pure Audio Trio with the Voxative Field Coil drivers.

I was not familiar with the music and the guy sitting next to me clued me in. It was just so live and realistic and the overall system was fantastic. I ordered the disk when I got home but no matter what system I play this track on, mine or audio store demos, nothing has come close to the sound I heard at the gathering.

The upstairs system was a Hattor Int with the Atlantic DAC and the Pure Audio Duet which was also nice for a smaller room. The living room was also Lampi with the Quintet.

I guess what I am trying to say is the Pacific DAC is pretty special if you have the cash and makes music sound like no other system (that I have heard) It might not be just the Speaker, that DAC has so much to do with it maybe no matter what speaker.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

Either way the question is fun.

I personally would have something like the ACS30 into a good DAC, maybe compare DCS toMSB.

Then I would either go with JBL K2's driven by D'Agostino monoblocks, 2 per speaker, possibly explore other amps, Bricasti, Constellation etc. best synergy;

or, the largest Volti speakers. Not sure at this point what amp. Second thought, I'd have to compare the Volti to Sadurni, Sadurni is consistently very good.

I'd also use a subwoofer swarm in the room with either set up. Maybe JL

I just don't feel a traditional speaker would work in that size room. I have heard large Wilson's pressurize a fairly large room though.

So true, troll or not, a fun thread when things are quite dead.

How about the Pure Audio Quintet 15 with D'iAg Relentless Amps and Pre, Pacific DAC, and a nice Luxman CDP.

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

That is very interesting about the Lampi Dac. I went to a local Audiophile club in home demo of Pure Audio Project, Hattor, and Lampi. I heard music like never before and not since. (I don't get out much )

There was one track in particular played that day that blew me away. Jessica Williams - Heather from Live at Yoshi's. Basement system was a prototype Lampi Integrated. (not sure if it ever went to market) the Lampi Pacific, and they were rolling tubes every hour, and the Pure Audio Trio with the Voxative Field Coil drivers.

I was not familiar with the music and the guy sitting next to me clued me in. It was just so live and realistic and the overall system was fantastic. I ordered the disk when I got home but no matter what system I play this track on, mine or audio store demos, nothing has come close to the sound I heard at the gathering.

The upstairs system was a Hattor Int with the Atlantic DAC and the Pure Audio Duet which was also nice for a smaller room. The living room was also Lampi with the Quintet.

I guess what I am trying to say is the Pacific DAC is pretty special if you have the cash and makes music sound like no other system (that I have heard) It might not be just the Speaker, that DAC has so much to do with it maybe no matter what speaker.

Cheers

Jessica Williams ..! Hey thats my recording .....

The lampi DAC’s are the most natural sounding IMO if setup and configured correctly, even if not using the Pacific model , not surprised you felt that way ..!



Regards

Originally Posted by a.wayne

Jessica Williams ..! Hey thats my recording .....





Regards

May I ask what you mean? Test Track or you recorded the show for that disk?

I suspect after all this Lisa has 'Petered out' …………….

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

May I ask what you mean? Test Track or you recorded the show for that disk?

My favorite recording for years now and the best album in her Series ...!!




Regards

Originally Posted by a.wayne

My favorite recording for years now and the best album in her Series ...!!




Regards

Thanks, kinda thought that was what you meant. Very nice Live recording.

Originally Posted by thetubeguy1954

Hi Randy! How are you doing my friend? I pray life is treating you and your family well? My new friend John S. repaired my Mastersound Reference 845 SET amp. Now it sounds even better than when I first purchased it new in 2001! On a sad note, I had to sell the T+A Amp 8, but I actually made a small profit which helped pay some bills. On a different note --{pun definitely intended}-- it was the very fact that many people had suggested Magico speakers to Lisa that I deliberately choose the Magico Ultimate speaker! The Magico Ultimate speakers have been my $600K "If I ever hit the Lotto speakers..." since the very first time I saw them.

That became especially true for me ever since I visited Suncoast Audio a few years back now. Lukasz Fikus of Lampizator was there and demonstrated his absolutely amazing Lampizator Pacific DAC! I don't remember which Magico speakers were being used, but I remember they sounded wonderful and had more realistic sounding bass than almost every subwoofer I ever heard. I'd like to think if one of Magico's less expensive models, like their M2 --{I may be mistaken on the model number, and I mean "less expensive" compared to their Ultimate Horn speaker}-- was voiced so neutrally it allowed the Pacific DAC's glorious sonics to shine through as wonderfully as they did. I could only imagine what their Ultimate Horn model will sound like! In my new Lotto home someday...



I'm listening to: Feel The Rhythm by Daria (Feel The Rhythm — daria)

Thetubeguy1954 (Tom)

Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society -- Full-range/Wide-range Drivers -- Front & Back-Loaded Horns -- High Sensitivity Speakers

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YBA Genesis CD4 CDP/Transport - Snake River Audio Cottonmouth Signature power cord & custom Mike R. digital wire
Musical Paradise tube DAC - Stealth Audio M21 Super, power cord & custom Mike R. ICs
Don Sachs Custom SP14 tube Preamp -Sablon Audio Gran Corona power cord & NBS Professional ICs (custom Mike R ICs soon coming)
Mastersound Reference 845 SET Amp - Hi-Diamond 3 power cord & Snake River Audio Cottonmouth Signature speaker wires
Reference 3A Taksim Speakers

Glad you got your old favorite amp repaired and back to its old self. We both know the T+A is a great little amp but we both we trying different directions at the time. I am currently very happy with the MBL that I came across!

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

That is very interesting about the Lampi Dac. I went to a local Audiophile club in home demo of Pure Audio Project, Hattor, and Lampi. I heard music like never before and not since. (I don't get out much )

There was one track in particular played that day that blew me away. Jessica Williams - Heather from Live at Yoshi's. Basement system was a prototype Lampi Integrated. (not sure if it ever went to market) the Lampi Pacific, and they were rolling tubes every hour, and the Pure Audio Trio with the Voxative Field Coil drivers.

I was not familiar with the music and the guy sitting next to me clued me in. It was just so live and realistic and the overall system was fantastic. I ordered the disk when I got home but no matter what system I play this track on, mine or audio store demos, nothing has come close to the sound I heard at the gathering.

The upstairs system was a Hattor Int with the Atlantic DAC and the Pure Audio Duet which was also nice for a smaller room. The living room was also Lampi with the Quintet.

I guess what I am trying to say is the Pacific DAC is pretty special if you have the cash and makes music sound like no other system (that I have heard) It might not be just the Speaker, that DAC has so much to do with it maybe no matter what speaker.

Cheers

Interesting that they were using Hattor with the Lampi... both being from Poland probably played into that. I know it is not used or mentioned much, but I am very happy with my Hattor.

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

Interesting that they were using Hattor with the Lampi... both being from Poland probably played into that. I know it is not used or mentioned much, but I am very happy with my Hattor.

Here are my pics from that day showing all the gear demo'd

Audio Gathering - Oct. 27th - Princeton NJ - Start Time - 1PM

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

Here are my pics from that day showing all the gear demo'd

Audio Gathering - Oct. 27th - Princeton NJ - Start Time - 1PM

Ohhh , you were at Deepak’s that was Lampi Fred’s demo setup ...!




Regards

Originally Posted by a.wayne

Ohhh , you were at Deepak’s that was Lampi Fred’s demo setup ...!




Regards

And it was an awesome day. I knew nobody but still enjoyed all the gear and tunes. I sat with the little Hattor system for a few hours spinning my own disks.