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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I had my Salon 2’s with REF250’s and it was awesome. REF150 should be fine so long as you don’t push it too hard.


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    Mike, do you think my ARC Ref 150SE would do a better job with the Studio2 speakers??

    BTW, how do you think the Studio 2s would compare to the Paradigm S8 (v3). As mentioned, the S8s have BE tweeters, just like the Salon 2s and the Studio 2s. I read a Stereophile review of the Studio 2s and noted that their sensitivity is 89db. My S8s have a 92db sensitivity and play quite loud without strain if pushed.

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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Quote Originally Posted by Bifwynne View Post
    Mike, do you think my ARC Ref 150SE would do a better job with the Studio2 speakers??

    BTW, how do you think the Studio 2s would compare to the Paradigm S8 (v3). As mentioned, the S8s have BE tweeters, just like the Salon 2s and the Studio 2s. I read a Stereophile review of the Studio 2s and noted that their sensitivity is 89db. My S8s have a 92db sensitivity and play quite loud without strain if pushed.

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    I think the REF 150SE would have no issues with the Studio 2’s. I also owned those. They seemed much easier to drive than the Salon 2’s.

    I think the Studio 2 is a much better speaker, especially in the tweeter, than the Paradigm S8 (v3). I cannot think of two speakers with more polar opposite sounding tweeters. The Studio 2/Salon 2 with one of the best in the business still today.
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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Did you guys hear those tiny ICE amps driving the salon 2's at axpona? It made me think twice about selling mine.
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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    Did you guys hear those tiny ICE amps driving the salon 2's at axpona? It made me think twice about selling mine.
    I did, but didn’t love it and I like the Salon 2’s a lot.


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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    The choice of music was only to prove a pair of amps barely larger than a couple slices of bread could move some air. I agree with you
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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    The choice of music was only to prove a pair of amps barely larger than a couple slices of bread could move some air. I agree with you
    Revel uses cheap Crown amps to test drive their speakers, so I'm not surprised ICE amps can drive their speakers.

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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Quote Originally Posted by jonfitch View Post
    Revel uses cheap Crown amps to test drive their speakers, so I'm not surprised ICE amps can drive their speakers.
    Have you been in the Harman listening room and seen this? The demo's I've seen showed Mark Levinson amps driving salons. I wonder which speaker has the higher ceiling? salon 2 or -persona 7f.
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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    Have you been in the Harman listening room and seen this? The demo's I've seen showed Mark Levinson amps driving salons. I wonder which speaker has the higher ceiling? salon 2 or -persona 7f.
    My Salon2s have never glossed over system changes, whether preamp, amp, source, PSU or cables. I would assume this means, as RH suggested in his review several years back, “quality in/quality out” with the Revels, and the sky’s the limit.

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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    Having owned the salon 2's myself I have nothing bad to say about them. Their design is 12 tears old now and I do wonder if the persona drivers tech has any advantages.
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    Re: Paradigm Persona 5F and 7F vs Salon 2s

    I got the sig s8 v2s, and want an upgrade. The Salon 2s, Persona 7Fs and magico A3s are all in the same ballpark of price plus or minus a few grand (based on the deals I can get). Its a tough choice. Used scala v2s often pop up in this price bracket also (10-15k).
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