Kii Audio - Three

I know they will!

The Kii Three also supports wireless. Look at the diagram that I have posted on the previous page. They use Wisa support. Is Goldmund also on the Wisa standard?
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I think 10k EUR for speakers, amps, and DAC's is reasonably priced!

Nice features and yes, a lot of features for the price. No idea about Goldmund wireless protocol. All they say is:

D. Wireless Connection
The bad reputation of wireless connection among audiophiles comes from the time where wireless meant analog wireless. Today, wireless systems are all working in digital and are 100% as good as the best wires. Otherwise computer networks would not be reliable through Wi-Fi…The interconnect attaching the analog preamplifier to the power amplifiers in a traditional audiophile system is the most detrimental cable in the whole system. It is also the cable that costs the most to audiophiles when they need to run long ones and want to preserve quality. In the Goldmund digital systems, the cable is usually a coaxial and the length and quality are less critical. And in the standalone speaker, the crossover is inside so only one cable is sufficient, even for a 6-way system like the Apologue or the Transformer. However this is still one of the cables that will run in the room, generating a risk of tripping, and very slowly degrading by stepping on it (the worse you can do to a digital coaxial cable). For the Goldmund Standalone Speaker, Goldmund introduced a digital wireless system of extreme robustness allowing the speakers to be linked wirelessly to a digital preamplifier (now usually called a Hub) or simply to a computer using a small USB dongle provided with the speakers. If an AC plug has been located in the floor under the speaker, no cable remains visible in the room, another step of “Wife Acceptance” improvement.
The Result: By removing the last signal cable, the standalone speaker looks even cleaner and can stand like a sculpture in a Museum, without wires attached.
 
Wisnon , thanks for pointing it out this thread, I am genuinely excited to hear these, our first pairs won't arrive until the end of September.
Chris says they are better than the LS1's, we have those here, and they are the finest 'conventional' ( although far from conventional) loudspeakers I have heard.
If the Kii THREE's are really better then wow!
Keith.
 
I like the Grimms, but they ware far from the best speakers I ever heard.
 
Have you heard them in your own room?
I have lived with a pair for what four years now, and they are superb, it takes a little while to really adjust to a really flat FR and even off axis response.
The way they easily integrate into any room, the fact they cause the least room issues of any speaker I have tried, their adjustability ,their versatility, 20Hz perfect phase, they are superb loudspeakers.
Keith.
 
Have you heard them in your own room?
I have lived with a pair for what four years now, and they are superb, it takes a little while to really adjust to a really flat FR and even off axis response.
The way they easily integrate into any room, the fact they cause the least room issues of any speaker I have tried, their adjustability ,their versatility, 20Hz perfect phase, they are superb loudspeakers.
Keith.
No, but neither were the EA MM3s nor the Goldmund Apologue and Anattas in my room. In terms of DRC etc, I think the Emerald Physics 2.7s had just as much room nullification effects with there controlled directivity mojo.

I really liked the Franco Serblin Ktemas as well, but I have no idea if they are an easy setup. Finally the FM Acoustics press event in Warsaw last year was also outstanding. They use Analog rroom correction processing, according to Manuel Huber.
 
With all respect, all you really hear at shows is the gross effect of the room. The LS1's are superb loudspeakers, ask for a home demonstration ,we have had some extremely expensive loudspeakers here and had the opportunity to compare them in the same rooms.
Keith.
 
With all respect, all you really hear at shows is the gross effect of the room. The LS1's are superb loudspeakers, ask for a home demonstration ,we have had some extremely expensive loudspeakers here and had the opportunity to compare them in the same rooms.
Keith.
They are supposed to be largely room cancelling, no?

They did sound great, but I simply say I have heard greater.

Have you heard the Anattas or the EA MM3 driven by the NHB-458 monoblocs?
 
You can't cancel the effect of the room, although Kii are proposing to cancel the rear bass wave, which previously could only be done by suffix mounting.
Grimm aim to have the least interaction with the room as possible, wide baffle, 45 degree toe in,adjustable bass extension, in built EQ etc .
Keith.
 
although Kii are proposing to cancel the rear bass wave, which previously could only be done by suffix mounting.
Eh? It's an active cardioid. It's been done for many many years previously, without soffit mount. Here's a (mid 2000's?) meyer sound.
Unfortunately, based on my own experience of over a dozen audio shows, mentioning "cardioid" draws a completely blank look from 99.9% of audiophiles. In rare instances they may know about the mics, but not the speaker versions.

cheers,

AJ
 
Geithain also claim Cardiod bass, but when I measured a pair here, they didn't appear to be very effective, but I would never claim my measurements are definitive.
I look forward to having the Kii's here, delivery should be end of next month.
Keith.
 
Well, the FM Acoustics did a great job of taking the room out of the equation in Warsaw and apparently the PROLOGOS Towers did in Newport, California according to the AVS showroom video wrap up.

In any case, all these speakers we speak of will give great erformances in real rooms, and are all at different price points. Thus, we all can pick our own poison.
 
No loudspeaker can take the room out of the equation, you can designso that the speaker has less effect , like the LS1's.
Room nodes for example are purely a function of the rooms dimensions, you can use passive room treatment , DRC or parametric EQ to ameliorate the effects of the room, that's what I do here, with my Illusonic processor.
It is possible to have a wonderful sounding room/ speaker combination but it takes a bit of investigation and then implementation.
Keith.
 
LoL,

I know Illusonic well enough and am in contact with the CEO. Very nice guy.

Yes, I know about DRC too as well as having heard the impact of ASP from Linkwitz speakers and FM Acoustics.

I still maintain that the 3 best demos I ever had were the Anatta, EA MM3 and the FM setup.
 
Wis Hi, I don't doubt you, the technology exists ,( Illusonic for example) that can allow every
room to sound fantastic, smart exhibitors should be using it!
Keith.
 
I heard the LS-1 at Munich this year and they were okay until I heard them on my dem disc - I would say medium to average for the show - no more, no less. Soundstage was flat, dynamics were ok, timbre was below average, voices were congested and not much delineation between instruments in space.
 
Wis Hi, I don't doubt you, the technology exists ,( Illusonic for example) that can allow every
room to sound fantastic, smart exhibitors should be using it!
Keith.

I agree with that - always surprises me that exhibitors don't use that kinda tech more often.
 
Yup, the Goldmund folks said it took them 30 mins to set up in Vegas last time. A quick email sent back home with the room dimensions and ast download of the computed parameters to the digital hub and they were off to the bar to chill out and enjoy Vegas…other people were up all night twiddling and still took 2 days or more to get their room sounding decent.
 
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