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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Yes Mike. This is really good stuff! In fact the bigger brothers of this speaker, the RC 9 and RC 11 are in the absolute top of many lists. This is one of the absolute European top brands from Germany The company used to be called Isophon in the past. The RC7 MKII is using ceramic mid and diamond tweeter units. The RC 11 is even using diamond for the mid range!!
    Definitely something you'd want to check with all the beautiful gear in your room..

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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Gorgeous! My Air Tight/Soulution/Accuphase dealer is now the distributor and he's raving about them. My friend David got a pair of the RC7 mk2's two days ago and he's over the moon. Said they beat his D5's.
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    Oh oh.

    What's the list on these?


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    I really like the look of these. Bit hard to find the specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socfan12 View Post
    Oh oh.

    What's the list on these?
    I really don't know. I'll check.
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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I really don't know. I'll check.
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    Mike, get the 9's...Group buy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    I really like the look of these. Bit hard to find the specs?
    Me, too, Kev, me, too!


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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Dave Clark did a review for PFO a couple of years ago and it was 35k. Unlike the Focal and LV, I would expect they would be a hard sell with the price and polarizing look.

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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    Mike, get the 9's...Group buy!
    Quote Originally Posted by socfan12 View Post
    Me, too, Kev, me, too!
    Do you guys think there might be a RC9 mk2 coming?
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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Dave Clark did a review for PFO a couple of years ago and it was 35k. Unlike the Focal and LV, I would expect they would be a hard sell with the price and polarizing look.
    You make a good point. So what would you suggest as a third speaker brand? Wilson, B&W, SF and many others require B&M for the most part. I like Rockport, but they're not expanding. Vandersteen makes some nice stuff. I love Estelon, but it doesn't seem to be reciprocated by others I speak with. I have a soft spot for YG.

    I'm completely open to suggestions and we have the smartest members so I know we will get some great ideas!
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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    YG's latest are very very good
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    Look into Kharma. Sent you a PM with more info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmalak View Post
    Look into Kharma. Sent you a PM with more info.
    As usual Cyril, you've come up with a brilliant idea. Let me investigate.
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    Mike

    It depends on what you want the pricing point to be on the third line. LV's normal line caps at about $16 and Focal is pretty much unlimited on either side of your Sopra line. Unless something has changed in the last 18 months there are no Vandersteen dealers in Florida at all. There is one in Atlanta that carries everything and one in Mobile that carries the minimum and mostly 1's and 2's. So you would have the state to yourself if they interest you at all. I'm just not that familiar with which companies have severe stocking requirements. I like Nola, but you have one in downtown Sarasota already.

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    Thanks Jack. I think the Nola dealer in Sarasota went under. Need to confirm.

    Just for clarification, the LV's cap out at $12k ish - depending on finish (VOX excluded).
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    Mike

    Don't know about the dealer in Sarasota's status now, but when I contacted Marilyn earlier in the year about a stocking K.O. dealer that was who she referred me to. I think their prices go from $1700 to almost six figures for HP's favorites.

    As to the LV's you may be right, but I thought I read somewhere that certain finishes were a bit higher than that. Anyway's they and the Nola's are voiced to my liking as were the older Vandersteen models.

    Another option if they have straightened out their distributor issues is ProAc. Have you thought about bringing in the Aperturas' for a listen or talk to Srajen about them. He seems to really like them and their designer has a has a pretty impressive background with Focal, SF and Goldmund.

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    Gauder RC7 MK2

    My Lumin distributor has been after me to bring in the Apertura's.

    I heard the ProAc's at one or two of the shows last year. Quite nice.

    I really like Nola's too. Very musical.

    Still bouncing around ideas. I really appreciate your ideas. Thank you. Gauder RC7 MK2
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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    My speaker tastes have always been to the Strad side of neutral. Speakers that were faves in my listening room were from Peter Snell's designs to Vandersteen, Meadowlark, Soliloquy, Reynaud, Nola, Odyssey (SL Legato) and others of that ilk. That is why my 2CE Sigs are still stored here and the more forward Treo's left after nine months. Just based on mep's, HP's and others description the K.O.'s would be right down my alley as would the LV's as they have the same drivers as the Odyssey's. Still waiting on more info on Klaus's latest design which will make it's second appearance at the DC show. The current reviewer faves are just not what I want.

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    Thanks Jack. I don't know why on earth the Odyssey amps aren't on more folks radar. They are priced right and sound a lot better than they should!
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    I don't know either Mike other than the lack of a dealer network. What most people don't realize is that originally Odyssey amps were sold through a dealer network. Audio Connection and Upscale were both dealers among others. I bought my first Odyssey amp from a dealer and it was his floor unit. When I wanted info that the dealer couldn't provide to integrate the amp with the Vandersteen subs I called Klaus directly. That was 1999 and we have been friends ever since. At one point he was even considering moving from Indy to Tampa, but changed his mind and sold the property he bought there. He has always had the full backing and support of SL and uses their parts in most of his amps. His first speaker model, which I have, is an exact copy of a SL design with the cabinets make in Indy. As JV has said in many of his reviews the Odyssey gets you most of the way to Solution sound for a fraction of the cost. As it is Klaus is backed up on orders months out. Whether you are interested in buying his gear or not it is worth seeking him out at shows for the conversation alone. One of the true characters in the audio business and a man who was in medical school before he met Rolf on a visit back to Germany to see family and changed careers.

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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    My Lumin distributor has been after me to bring in the Apertura's.

    I heard the ProAc's at one or two of the shows last year. Quite nice.

    I really like Nola's too. Very musical.
    Still bouncing around ideas. I really appreciate your ideas. Thank you. Gauder RC7 MK2
    Mike,
    Have you given Tidal speakers any consideration? For me, the sound of the Tidal Piano Cera (which is actually their entry level floorstander) was the most unforgettable experience of RMAF 2014. They are stellar sounding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    Mike,
    Have you given Tidal speakers any consideration? For me, the sound of the Tidal Piano Cera (which is actually their entry level floorstander) was the most unforgettable experience of RMAF 2014. They are stellar sounding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    So what would you suggest as a third speaker brand? Wilson, B&W, SF and many others require B&M
    Wow, you even consider B&M? That is a great brand!! In Europe they have an odd way of direct distribution, I think they organize demos in different cities. But it is an amazing lie-up. All active top-notch speakers. Of course with B&W you can't go wrong but why would you do that next to Focal? I think these are the two major high-end speaker manufacturers with both a complete collection from affordable to very expensive. I don't think I would do that although I love B&W too of course.
    Considering what you have I think Backes & Müller would be a perfect complementary addition.


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    Mike, how about Audio Note? It seems no dealer in FL and entire dealer network in North America could use some expansion. Plus it's quite different than Focal or LV.
    Another brand that maybe worth considering is GamuT. Heard their top of the line standmounts RS3 today (with GamuT amp, pre and CD player) and I can confidently say it's the best standmounts I've ever heard. Very emotionally engaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Mike, how about Audio Note? It seems no dealer in FL and entire dealer network in North America could use some expansion. Plus it's quite different than Focal or LV.
    Another brand that maybe worth considering is GamuT. Heard their top of the line standmounts RS3 today (with GamuT amp, pre and CD player) and I can confidently say it's the best standmounts I've ever heard. Very emotionally engaging.
    This is the one a friendly audio reviewer suggested to me. Need to do more investigation. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    John at Wellington Audio in West Palm Beach was an AK dealer last I looked. Also Rega, Harbeth and Reynaud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Another option if they have straightened out their distributor issues is ProAc.
    The Sound Organisation has been appointed as the new ProAc distributor in the US, but their website has not yet been updated accordingly. They are no longer handling PMC speakers. Here's an article confirming the announcement.

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    I don't know either Mike other than the lack of a dealer network. What most people don't realize is that originally Odyssey amps were sold through a dealer network. Audio Connection and Upscale were both dealers among others. I bought my first Odyssey amp from a dealer and it was his floor unit. When I wanted info that the dealer couldn't provide to integrate the amp with the Vandersteen subs I called Klaus directly. That was 1999 and we have been friends ever since. At one point he was even considering moving from Indy to Tampa, but changed his mind and sold the property he bought there. He has always had the full backing and support of SL and uses their parts in most of his amps. His first speaker model, which I have, is an exact copy of a SL design with the cabinets make in Indy. As JV has said in many of his reviews the Odyssey gets you most of the way to Solution sound for a fraction of the cost. As it is Klaus is backed up on orders months out. Whether you are interested in buying his gear or not it is worth seeking him out at shows for the conversation alone. One of the true characters in the audio business and a man who was in medical school before he met Rolf on a visit back to Germany to see family and changed careers.
    He is absolutely a character! I bought my Symphonic Line monos and CDP from him, and whenever I call him with a question I make sure to set aside an hour because the conversation can easily run that long. And the conversation often turns to things other than audio. I think he also has a degree in political science - a true Franklinesque/Renaissance Man kind of guy with all sorts of interests, who cusses like a sailor too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by p59teitel View Post
    He is absolutely a character! I bought my Symphonic Line monos and CDP from him, and whenever I call him with a question I make sure to set aside an hour because the conversation can easily run that long. And the conversation often turns to things other than audio. I think he also has a degree in political science - a true Franklinesque/Renaissance Man kind of guy with all sorts of interests, who cusses like a sailor too!
    Pete, what other amps have you tried with your Salons?
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    The only other amp I've had in the house with the Revels is the Plinius SB-301. That was a damn fine amp too, pretty dynamic with great bass. The SL monos are better, but given the price disparity they should be. The SB-301 retail new around $11K but can be found for around $5K used, and are absolutely a good find in that price range.

    Also have heard the Salons with the ML 532 stereo amp as well as the 532H. The 532 was great on small-scale acoustic music and had really nice tonality, but it wasn't particularly dynamic on rock or symphonic material. The 532H was just OK I thought - didn't really move me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by audio.bill View Post
    The Sound Organisation has been appointed as the new ProAc distributor in the US, but their website has not yet been updated accordingly. They are no longer handling PMC speakers. Here's an article confirming the announcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    John at Wellington Audio in West Palm Beach was an AK dealer last I looked. Also Rega, Harbeth and Reynaud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p59teitel View Post
    The only other amp I've had in the house with the Revels is the Plinius SB-301. That was a damn fine amp too, pretty dynamic with great bass. The SL monos are better, but given the price disparity they should be. The SB-301 retail new around $11K but can be found for around $5K used, and are absolutely a good find in that price range.

    Also have heard the Salons with the ML 532 stereo amp as well as the 532H. The 532 was great on small-scale acoustic music and had really nice tonality, but it wasn't particularly dynamic on rock or symphonic material. The 532H was just OK I thought - didn't really move me.
    Thanks Pete!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glareskin View Post
    Wow, you even consider B&M? That is a great brand!! In Europe they have an odd way of direct distribution, I think they organize demos in different cities. But it is an amazing lie-up. All active top-notch speakers. Of course with B&W you can't go wrong but why would you do that next to Focal? I think these are the two major high-end speaker manufacturers with both a complete collection from affordable to very expensive. I don't think I would do that although I love B&W too of course.
    Considering what you have I think Backes & Müller would be a perfect complementary addition.


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    Mike

    You guys were talking about Ryan at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Mike

    You guys were talking about Ryan at one point.
    Yes, excellent speaker, but I feel the LV is better and similarly priced in the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Mike

    You guys were talking about Ryan at one point.
    Yes, excellent speaker, but I feel the LV is better and similarly priced in the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    Mike,
    Have you given Tidal speakers any consideration? For me, the sound of the Tidal Piano Cera (which is actually their entry level floorstander) was the most unforgettable experience of RMAF 2014. They are stellar sounding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Interesting. Do these have a U.S. Presence?
    I don't know but what I do know is that these are really good sounding speakers. Very powerful, musical speakers. Relatively unknown even though they are around for 40 years and highly acclaimed by the European audio pressI think they might benefit form the current active speakers revival. Since they have DAC's inside you could drive directly from a streaming device or computer source. And this is what is taught to be the thing that customers want nowadays, at least in Europe that is.

    Definitely worth checking this out Mike. The BM35 and BM50 are the absolute top in the world and I wouldn't be surprised that they will replace other speakers from your own listening room :-)
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    Mike, we need to go to High-End one day...


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    We should Allen! And if we're going, we would have to go business class at a minimum.
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    Re: Gauder RC7 MK2

    Quote Originally Posted by p59teitel View Post
    He is absolutely a character! I bought my Symphonic Line monos and CDP from him, and whenever I call him with a question I make sure to set aside an hour because the conversation can easily run that long. And the conversation often turns to things other than audio. I think he also has a degree in political science - a true Franklinesque/Renaissance Man kind of guy with all sorts of interests, who cusses like a sailor too!
    Ken Stevens at CAT will talk to you for an hour as well. I went into his room at CES and could not leave as he almost stepped on my foot to keep talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy View Post
    Ken Stevens at CAT will talk to you for an hour as well. I went into his room at CES and could not leave as he almost stepped on my foot to keep talking.

    so true Ken at CAT, loves to yack and is a total wealth of knowledge!

    to bad CAT gear, doesn't get the praise it truly deserves, he'll never win any awards for looks,because CAT gear is ALL ABOUT PERFORMANCE FIRST!


    Stuff coming out of CAT today is Phenomenal (Resolution/Transparency/Dynamic etc..) in the Tube world, CAT has no equal. kinda like a SET amp on Steroids! Tube Amps that actually do Bass like SS amps


    BERLINA RC 7 MK II looks like a winner!

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    Does anyone have the latest of TAS? Apparently there is a review of the Gauder RC9's in there.
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    Mike - I have the latest issue of TAS (September) and while there is no formal review of the Gauders, there is a brief mention of them in their report from Munich. Sorry but I don't think I should post it here for copyright reasons, TAS is known to be pretty strict about that.

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    Thanks Bill. I found them under Golden Ear Awards (review forthcoming). Well, that's a good sign!
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    Gauder RC7 MK2 pair listed on Agon (Dealer AD) anyone wants to take the plunge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureVinyl View Post
    Gauder RC7 MK2 on Agon (Dealer AD) anyone wants to take the plunge.
    Are they the mk2's?
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