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    Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi all, I'm new here. Found this site through Jim Smith. Seems to be much more active and positive than the alternative audio sites.

    I've owned my Sashas for 6 years. Rest of system includes: Doshi Jhor monoblocks, Doshi Alaap full function preamp, TW Akustic Raven table with Graham Phantom Supreme arm and Air Tight PC1; Transparent reference cables. My listening includes acoustic and light rock, singer songwriter, and small ensemble jazz as well as big bands.

    I am moving to a new house and my audio room will be 17' wide, 9' tall, 35' long, with a partial dividing wall half way down the length.

    Where I live in Louisville, it is impossible to get home auditions and the nearest high end stores are several hours away. I can audition Magico, Sonus Faber, Focal, Ariel, Dynaudio, B&W, JBL, Revel. The Magico S line (3 or 5 mk2) is interesting to me, and so is Sonus Faber like the Amati Futura. My budget is $30,000 total including trade in or sale of my Sashas, and I don't need to buy new.

    So for those of you who owned Sashas in the past and have happily moved on, where did you end up and why? Any regrets?

    Thanks much,

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Welcome to AS Dave!


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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Thanks Mike. This is a great site! I look forward to hearing from others on my questions.

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hello Dave, it's been a while!

    I would strongly suggest Magico S5's. I went from Sophia 2 > Sashas > Alexias > S5 (and now Magico M Project). The S5 (mk1) was such an improvement over the Alexia it wasn't funny.

    The only problem may be your amplification. As you know it was voiced for the Sashas. I didn't like them on the Alexias and I briefly tried them on the S5's and it was pretty dull sounding.
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Madfloyd. Yes it has been a while. I hope you are well and thanks for your reply.

    Magico is on my radar screen. I heard the S3 and was impressed.

    Have you compared the S3 to S5 to S5 mk II?

    I understand about the Doshi amps. Makes me think I need to take them with me to audition.

    Thanks for the input!

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Curious- what don't you like about your current Sashas? What are your goals if you "upgrade?"
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Keith. Great question. Most of the time I really enjoy the Sashas. In fact I have kept them for much longer than any speaker before.

    There are 2 general reasons I am considering a change. First is that there are times that the titanium tweeter calls attention to itself and in a non complimentary way. Wilson has abandoned this tweeter in favor of a soft dome. Either due to the tweeter, or other voicing and tonality issues, I cant always just relax into the music like for example the "warm embrace" of Sonus Faber.

    The second issue is that in the six years I've had them technology marches on. I'm in the place now where I can buy my next long term speaker so I am evaluating options.

    Thanks for the question.

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Welcome to AS Dave!

    Lots of choices at your price point. It is no secret that Doshi and Wilson play music very nicely together. The Sasha 2s are very nice and for a bit more the Alexias (I realize a lot over your planned budget) would be a nice step up and would mate well with the Doshi.

    Magicos are nice as well (as you know) but I have never heard them with Doshi.

    I'm sure you'll get great perspectives here in AS.
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Thanks Mike. Yeah, the Sasha 2 is also on my radar screen. But it will take a 5 hour road trip to audition them at Paragon. The good news is that Larry has the Doshi Amps on hand, so that would be a valid audition.

    I just wonder if the upgrade cost of going from Sasha 1 to Sasha 2 is worth it ($15,000 - $20,000), versus other options. I know...only my ears can make that decision! But my hope is that by hearing other people's experiences of moving beyond Sasha 1 and their long term satisfaction, it will help to narrow things down.

    Thanks,

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    If you're looking for a warmer sound I would audition SF, Devore, and Harbeth. I think the Devore Gibbon X is a really good speaker and would work well with your existing amps.
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    another speaker I forgot to mention is Evolution Acoustics - they have one of the most natural extended tweeters in the business. Good luck!
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Thanks Keith. I appreciate the recommendations. I have heard the Devore 0/93 and they did have some very nice qualities. I'd like to hear the Evolution Acoustics, but finding a place to audition is always a challenge.

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Dave,

    I've owned WP6, WP8, Maxx2, Maxx3 and have owned Rockport Altairs now for a few years. I haven't heard your Doshi electronics but have read many great things about them. You might consider a used pair of Maxx3's, great pricing right. Also, I'd find a Rockport dealer or owner to listen and see how you react to their sound.

    Finally, since you're a Transparent cable owner...what version are your Reference cables ? MM2? If so I'd seriously consider Gen 5 or maybe upgrading to Ref XL Gen 5. Serious gains here, good trade in pricing...and great synergy with Wilsons (and my Rockports)

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi jfrech,

    I see those great deals on Max 3, brand new for low $30's. A seriously great deal. But is their tonality that different from Sasha's? If so, then I need to check them out.

    My Transparent Ref are MM2. I know they make even better cables, but they get very pricey and cable upgrades aren't in the budget right now. Maybe next year.

    Thanks,

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Dave,
    Welcome. You might think about coming up for the AXPONA show here, April 15-17. I'll be showing in room 554 if you care to stop by. Please introduce yourself, as I may be able to make some suggestions and people to visit.
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    I went from Sophia mk 2 > Sashas mk 1 > S5 mk 1 (and now Magico S5 mk 2).

    The S5 mk 1 sound much smoother on top and have a much more articulate bass. The Sashas were a bit more lively though.

    With the introduction of the S5 mk 2 used prices of the S5 mk 1 had dropped significantly, which makes them a relative bargain right now.
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Thanks Brian. Yes, I have been considering making the drive up to Chicago. If I do, I will stop by and talk with you.

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for the suggestion of the S5. Both you and Madfloyd have gone the same direction from Sashas to S5.

    Have you heard the S5 mk2? If so, how would you describe the difference from the S5?

    Thanks,

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Quote Originally Posted by daveneumann View Post
    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for the suggestion of the S5. Both you and Madfloyd have gone the same direction from Sashas to S5.

    Have you heard the S5 mk2? If so, how would you describe the difference from the S5?

    Thanks,

    Dave
    The first pairs of s5mk2 just rolled out the door from Magico last week, so I doubt too many people have heard them yet. Everyone that heard the s1mk2 at CES raves about the sound. Mike has a pair and I'm sure he'll chime in here.


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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Quote Originally Posted by daveneumann View Post
    Hi jfrech,

    I see those great deals on Max 3, brand new for low $30's. A seriously great deal. But is their tonality that different from Sasha's? If so, then I need to check them out.

    My Transparent Ref are MM2. I know they make even better cables, but they get very pricey and cable upgrades aren't in the budget right now. Maybe next year.

    Thanks,

    Dave
    The Maxx3's are different. Not huge. First, the bass is just better. More weight. More extended, more effortless. A lot more power. 2nd they do height in a different (and better way). Actually I'd describe the whole speaker as having more weight on the notes and more effortless everywhere. Tonally, it's more fun to listen to. The other thing I noticed from the WP8 to Maxx3 was the Maxx was more quiet...so dynamics seem to jump out quicker out from the darkness...maybe this is the more fun part...

    Anyway, lots of good options, this is one to consider. I'd also go listen Rockport...my current speaker.
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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    My speakers in recent years: WP7 -> Sasha -> S5. When I heard the S5 at my dealer's I thought it was superior on technical aspects: transient, resolution, coherence, bass definition, but I wasn't sure I could love it. I bought the S5 before selling the Sasha so I could compare at my own environment. The S5 has been with me for almost 3 years now.

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Add the Wilson Benesch ACT One Evo in your price range.

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Charles, thanks for sharing your experience going from Sasha to S5. So I assume that after long term listening...you love them? If you don't mind me asking, what is your associated equipment?

    Thanks,

    Dave

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Hi Dave, yes I love my S5, at least better than my previous speakers. What I appreciate most is its bass definition and coherence with the midrange. In my case the closed enclosures seemed to make them more tolerant to non-optimal placement. My listening room, approx. 16' x 18' with opening at the rear to another area, would not allow for much flexibilities.

    My front consists of a Rockport Capella air-bearing tt/arm with Benz Ruby, and a Lumin streamer for digital. I have driven the S5 with 3 amps: ASR Emitter II, Devialet 400, Vitus RI-100. They are all enjoyable and my preference is in that order. Previously I thought amps with slightly dark tonality, like the ASR, would be more suitable, until I heard the Devialet. It is more sunny yet not lean with great resolution and ambience. I still prefer the ASR overall but the Devialet works wonders with the bass.

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    Re: Former Sasha 1 owners...what have you moved to?

    Quote Originally Posted by bthomas9 View Post
    The first pairs of s5mk2 just rolled out the door from Magico last week, so I doubt too many people have heard them yet.
    +1

    I have ordered a pair without listening first. Having learned about the changes made to the design and how they improved the S1, I believe S5 mk 2 will be similar in overall character to the S5 mk 1 (which makes them a relatively safe buy for the current S5 mk 1 owner), only better.

    But even the original S5 mk 1 is a damn fine speaker. Certainly the best I've heard in sub $40k range, and I've heard quite a few. If it wasn't for the mk 2 version, I would be still using them today.
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