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October 29, 2019, 06:24 PM #1
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93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Well guy's, I just had a friend ask me for my opinion on speakers to match with his 20wpc Almarro tube amp.
No horns tho. The only ones I could come up with are the Living Voice and the Zu speakers.
Any others come to mind?
Thx
Kerry
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October 29, 2019, 06:28 PM #2
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
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October 29, 2019, 06:58 PM #3
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
No horns seems to leave out a lot. Looking forward to seeing what other responses we get.
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October 29, 2019, 07:06 PM #4
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
http://www.spatialaudio.us/pagex5
Spatial X3/X5 series with active bass are rated at 97dB.
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October 29, 2019, 07:13 PM #5
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
there are a number of good speakers in this efficiency range. a few that come to mind are:
omega speaker systems
voxative
deVore
tekton design
tannoy GR serries
however... my almarro a318b, 18 wpc amp loves viking acoustics speakers. the synergy is just there. the britton iii model fits the no-horn requirement.
all other current viking models are "horns" -- but note, these are not compression loaded horns -- there is an air gap between the horn and high frequency driver making the horn also a bass port... all the goodness of horns without any of the shoutiness typically associated with them. i rate them highly.viking acoustics berlin r mk2 | almarro a318b + air tight atc-5 (phono) | clearaudio concept + virtuoso v2 MM | t+a dac8 dsd + diy transport + roon rock
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October 29, 2019, 07:21 PM #6
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Daedalus Audio too
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October 29, 2019, 09:00 PM #7
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Not sure of your budget but Wilson makes some in the 91-93 range.
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October 29, 2019, 10:44 PM #8
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Sonist Loudspeakers, high efficiency with a ribbon tweeter. I tried to get a link but something is going on with their site, or, my browser, tonight.
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October 29, 2019, 11:21 PM #9
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
The Lansche 3.2 are 92 db.
My Lansche 4.2 are even 95 db, but they’re not an impulse purchase.
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October 30, 2019, 01:22 AM #10
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93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Grandinote Mach 4. 95dB and no horns. Cabinets have now been upgraded to full carbon fibre.
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October 30, 2019, 05:02 AM #11
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Wilson Alexandria's and WAMM
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October 30, 2019, 11:00 AM #12
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Pretty much all Audio Notes.
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October 30, 2019, 01:03 PM #13
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
I've had the same issue before. For dynamic drivers that are SET compatible:
DeVore Fidelity Orangutan (not Gibbon series)
Zu Audio (not a good match with Almarro - I tried it)
Audio Note - colored to my ears and require corner placement, but for some amazing
Voxativ - expensive, but well made
Trenner & Friedl
Horning Euphrodite
Daedalus
Pure Audio Project or Spatial Audio - open baffle is up to taste, but they are efficient because of it
VSA used to have a high efficiency speaker, not sure now. But none of the big, more SOTA cabinet guys will work with those amps.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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October 30, 2019, 01:35 PM #14
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Amazing variety of design philosophies and price points.
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October 31, 2019, 03:35 PM #15
Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
I would expect the persona 9H could play well. I heard the 7f playing with the watt meter only touching 40watts on peaks thru the new Anthem amp and levels were realistic. the 9h adds 2 powered 8" woofers 93 db efficiency and room correction.
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October 31, 2019, 04:47 PM #16
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
Bigger sized Fyne Audio and Tannoys.
That said back when I had 93 dB Tannoy Kensington SE and 25 - 35 Watts/ch tube amps, I rock pretty loud, and there were times when that wasn't enough power. The need for more power went away completely above 70 - 90 Watts / ch, which would equate to 99 dB / Watt speakers on a 20 Watts/ch amp - e.g. Westminster GR
20 Watts / ch would be fine with more moderate level and/or simpler music.
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November 5, 2019, 10:12 AM #17
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Re: 93-98db Speakers - No Man's Land?
I would say 93db efficiency is in the low side for 20 watts. But a lot also depends in on the impedance. A 2 Ohm 95dB speaker will not be a great match with tubes I'd say. A stable impedance might be more important then pure high efficiency.
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November 10, 2019, 03:47 PM #18
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audionote speakers are beautiful , they would fall in this bracket and always sound fantastic at shows . they are not cheap though
https://www.audionote.co.uk/an-e-speakers1]bel canto EIX/ F5 monoblocks . BC cd2, tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 5 ,arcam a85 , black ice modded dac
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November 11, 2019, 01:23 PM #19
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Cube Audio are one of the nicest finds here during the recent year.
https://www.cubeaudio.eu/
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November 11, 2019, 03:27 PM #20
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mmm , looks a very nice finish
1]bel canto EIX/ F5 monoblocks . BC cd2, tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 5 ,arcam a85 , black ice modded dac
modded dac , marantz sa8005, Verity audio Rienzi
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